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Post What player position changes do you make in 2015?
Ok, now we know the Hills Have Eyes is coming back. I will hedge a bet that Coyle returns too.

Let's hear your opinion on what players need to be REPLACED for the 2015 season.


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Post Re: What player position changes do you make in 2015?
Hartline...he doesn't fit in this offense. I say show Gibson the door too.

Defense is aging and it shows. Problem is, the offensive line is a patchwork too.

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draft a WR #1, then an offensive guard, then go defensive back, then defensive tackle or linebacker, then DT or LB again...and then get us a kicker.

A lot of next year hinges on the health of the quarter of the team that is on IR.

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The most important needs are DT, #2WR and OG. Those are must haves.

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Hartline...he doesn't fit in this offense. I say show Gibson the door too.
That is being nice.


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Defense is aging and it shows. Problem is, the offensive line is a patchwork too.
Need to get Dan Williams & let Starks walk.

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draft a WR #1, then an offensive guard, then go defensive back, then defensive tackle or linebacker, then DT or LB again...and then get us a kicker.

Miami needs to gamble on some WR also. H. Nicks for cheap. Gamble on a player with off field concerns, but loads of talent in Da'Rick Rodgers. They have to many holes to file.


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The most important needs are DT, #2WR and OG. Those are must haves.

Yup


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I like Dan Williams and CJ mosley for defensive tackles. Iupati at guard. Draft a stud receiver and look into signing Andre Holmes or Cecil Shorts if he checks out physically.


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I like Dan Williams and CJ mosley for defensive tackles. Iupati at guard. Draft a stud receiver and look into signing Andre Holmes or Cecil Shorts if he checks out physically.

Forgot about Holmes. Shorts seems to be getting hurt a ton. Kenny Britt is another one.


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We need a "great" running back that can break one.

Adrian Peterson trade....?

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Justin Blackmon is another gamble to look at. Miami needs to role the dice on a talented player with issues.


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Thats a big no to Britt and Blackmon


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Post Re: What player position changes do you make in 2015?
The oline needs help.....Very questionable Pouncy comes back and you got lucky at center this year....

And if you look around the league our defense ranks better than the top teams in the nfl...So spending a little more on offense may not be a bad idea.....A middle of the road defense works in todays nfl if you have an offense.

Our offense has improved this year and the offense stayed about the same. We also need a complimental power back which could have been addressed a couple times already but wasn't.


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Thats a big no to Britt and Blackmon
I can understand Blackmon, but why Britt?


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Britt has had a very checkered past too Scot. If shorts is 100 percent now He would be a quality add to Landry and one of the top draft prospects.


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Serviceable WR and RB. We have the best QB in the league. Surround him with better guys at these skilled positions & we will have a NE type dynasty.

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Post Re: What player position changes do you make in 2015?
I think O-line is still first & foremost.

I want to say Coyle has failed but the topic asks for players so I will say a CB opposite of Grimes is necessary. Y'all know I like Finn but he didn't prove hes an every down starter this year. I found it weird that our D-line disappeared as the season went on, I don't know if thats individuals or a scheme problem

The last, not the least, to me is a veteran WR. Someone who can set the tone & be an example of work ethic for Wallace, Juice, & Matthews. Screw Hartline & Gibson. This is what our WR & QB needs

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Britt has had a very checkered past too Scot. If shorts is 100 percent now He would be a quality add to Landry and one of the top draft prospects.

Yes, he has had some minor stuff, but that was 3 yrs ago. I'm just looking at players who might recapture their past. Britt has been playing rather well lately is why I thought of him. While I like Shorts and his ability, he is not what Miami needs. They need a big Wr.


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Post Re: What player position changes do you make in 2015?
Dt is not a need. Resign odrick then get some real linebackers and watch the dline dominate. Theyve had to carry the entire defense this season. Its no surprise they look worn and tired


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I say top needs are linebacker, safety and offensive line. We could use a big wr or stud rb but idk if its absolutely necessary


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Id trade hartline (or else keep him), cut gibson. Maybe find a trade partner for dallas thompson or else cut him.
Cut all the linebackers except dannell ellerbe and koa misi.
Cut ties with all the rbs but miller.

And ik it wont be a popular opinion but i just dont like the brandon albert signing. I dont see him ever playing a full season in miami. Id see if you cant work out a trade that sends him elsewhere and we get a quality but not great LT in return as well as a big bodied receiver.
But maybe im wrong and he'll work out for miami


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Britt has had a very checkered past too Scot. If shorts is 100 percent now He would be a quality add to Landry and one of the top draft prospects.

Yes, he has had some minor stuff, but that was 3 yrs ago. I'm just looking at players who might recapture their past. Britt has been playing rather well lately is why I thought of him. While I like Shorts and his ability, he is not what Miami needs. They need a big Wr.

But I want the big receiver to come from the draft. Not a stopgap like Britt.


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But I want the big receiver to come from the draft. Not a stopgap like Britt.

Why would he have to be a stop gap? Will only be 27 next yr. Miami has to strike gold on the garbage pile on some position. They cannot sign top guys & only have so many draft picks.

The WR market will be loaded with talented players that could be had cheap.


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Sacks are down, but Tannehill has still been sacked 40 times. Get Brandon Albert back at OLT, move Ju'Wuan James back to ORT and address both G positions. Iupata would be an ideal fit, and move Pouncey back to OC. Satele provides quality depth.

Linebackers have to be added and Phillip Wheeler needs to be shown the door.

If Cecil Shorts were a bigger WR, I could see looking at him. As it is, he is not and I am not in favor of adding him. A bigger WR is needed.

Lamar Miller is having a very nice year and the rookie Williams is a nice backup, as he has very good hands out of the backfield, the drop in the New England game not included. Knowshown Moreno gave the Dolphins that nice power back, and someone similar or Moreno on a team friendly deal would be nice. Have to make sure Moreno knee is healing properly, which I have no reason to think it is not.

Would not mind seeing a Big DT bought in along with a safety. Jimmy Wilson does absolutely nothing for me. Misses tackles and get's beat in coverage.

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and also Marshawn Lynch.


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Dt is not a need. Resign odrick then get some real linebackers and watch the dline dominate. Theyve had to carry the entire defense this season. Its no surprise they look worn and tired


Starks is the one who didn't get it done.

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Jimmy Wilson does absolutely nothing for me. Misses tackles and get's beat in coverage.



Tony, I could not agree more. My fear is because he will probably stay cheap and knows the system that he will be back, but I felt that way with Nolan Carroll too, just cut ties with Wilson and upgrade.

A younger starting corner opposite Grimes next year for sure and two offensive lineman spots and throw in a big bodied Damaryius Thomas type receiver opposite Wallace.

I actually think that Dion Sims is getting better and better at our TE spot and if Charles Clay would just stay healthy. Get rid of Starks and get younger there too at the DT.


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It all starts in the trenches. It isn't a coincidence that Miami's big struggles started the moment the D-line fell apart. Miami has to sign or acquire the next Soliai aka a guy who can occupy a few blockers to free up the LBs. Miami also needs to replace the guards and find a better backup tackle. Dallas Thomas has cost the team so many points and drives.

Another issue is money. Miami can free up a lot of cap space but they have young guys who will need to be re-signed in a year or two. I don't think we see an Ireland spending spree, but they'll make a splash or two.

I'd say the following starters are going to be replaced this year:

Hartline, Colledge, Satele, Starks, Odrick, Ellerbe/Wheeler, Delmas, Finnegan

Backups:

Gibson, Matthews, Garner, Thomas (RB), Wilson

Re-signed:

Moore (due to must win for Philbin), Trusnick, Clay (prove it deal)

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Andre Johnson, Frank Gore, Doug Martin, James Carpenter, Nick Fairley

I expect a few young guys to have bigger roles next year as well. Sims, Taylor, Davis, Aikens and Williams come to mind. I'd love to see if Matt Hazel can take over as the 4th WR.


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But I want the big receiver to come from the draft. Not a stopgap like Britt.


I'm all for Miami getting Strong or White in the 1st round, but I have zero faith that Philbin will get them involved early and often.

Miami might be better off getting a vet for next year so the guy can actually see the field and make an impact.


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I'm actually open to either the draft or a guy like Britt if one isn't available.

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I'm actually open to either the draft or a guy like Britt if one isn't available.


Highly doubt Philbin would be open to dealing with Britt, but I guess you could counter with he's giving Damien Williams a chance.

I still think the most realistic scenario is if a guy like Andre Johnson or Vincent Jackson were a cap casualty maybe Hickey would overpay for a year or two, similar to the Finnegan deal.


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in the draft without question I would go best player available. We could use updates improvements at ever single position. I would not draft a QB in round 1 though. I don't see a guy there worth it

I could see DB, DT, LB, OL.

Would not draft a RB either. I like the 2 we have in Miller and Williams


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Jimmy Wilson does absolutely nothing for me. Misses tackles and get's beat in coverage.



Tony, I could not agree more. My fear is because he will probably stay cheap and knows the system that he will be back, but I felt that way with Nolan Carroll too, just cut ties with Wilson and upgrade.

A younger starting corner opposite Grimes next year for sure and two offensive lineman spots and throw in a big bodied Damaryius Thomas type receiver opposite Wallace.

I actually think that Dion Sims is getting better and better at our TE spot and if Charles Clay would just stay healthy. Get rid of Starks and get younger there too at the DT.



Dion Sims is looking more legit by the week and I am liking what I am seeing from that young man. Clay needs to be more consistent, but you see what he can be, a guy that is hard to matchup with.

Without a doubt, Jimmy Wilson pisses me off. Instead of trying to wrap up and make tackles, he got his fist balled up trying to punch balls out I GUESS. Misses tackles and get's beat like a drum in coverage.

I can see Miami shedding some veterans like Starks in regards to getting some salary cap space.

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and also Marshawn Lynch.


He was talking retirement after this season. I see very little chance that he signs anywhere outside of Seattle, especially a team like Miami.

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Andre Johnson, Frank Gore


Those two definitely intrigue me, considering the huge ties they have to South Florida. Moreso Andre.

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Dion Sims is looking more legit by the week and I am liking what I am seeing from that young man. Clay needs to be more consistent, but you see what he can be, a guy that is hard to matchup with.


Ya, those 22 receptions (269 yards) and 2 TD's are just insane numbers.

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Ya, those 22 receptions, 269 yards, and 2 TD's are just insane numbers.


He was obviously talking about the latter, and more recent stretch of the season where he has stepped up into a bigger role. Not everyone takes over games straight out the gate. I agree with Tone.

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He was obviously talking about the latter, and more recent stretch of the season where he has stepped up into a bigger role. Not everyone takes over games straight out the gate. I agree with Tone.


I guess we have very different expectations of what "stepping up" means.

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I guess we have very different expectations of what "stepping up" means.


It's a process, he didn't take on a larger role in the offense until later in the season. He was a 7th round pick IIRC, in his second season. Do you honestly expect him to light it up already? I know people hate the term "progress" around here, and I don't blame you...but it's true with Sims.

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It's a process, he didn't take on a larger role in the offense until later in the season. He was a 7th round pick IIRC, in his second season. Do you honestly expect him to light it up already? I know people hate the term "progress" around here, and I don't blame you...but it's true with Sims.


First off, he was taken in the 4th round with the 106th pick. Secondly, I said nothing about lighting it up already.

We need to stop falling in love with mediocrity. He's a role player who made the best of his limited opportunities, but they need a legit playmaker with size and big catching radius.

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It's a process, he didn't take on a larger role in the offense until later in the season. He was a 7th round pick IIRC, in his second season. Do you honestly expect him to light it up already? I know people hate the term "progress" around here, and I don't blame you...but it's true with Sims.


First off, he was taken in the 4th round with the 106th pick. Secondly, I said nothing about lighting it up already.

We need to stop falling in love with mediocrity. He's a role player who made the best of his limited opportunities, but they need a legit playmaker with size and big catching radius.


I never said he was the future, nor did I imply me "falling in love" with the guy. No doubt this team needs an upgrade at WR, or even TE, but I'm not bailing on this guy after 2 seasons. Anyone who can conclude a player as mediocre in just his second season, with the sample size Sims has shown, is just being close minded.

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I never said he was the future, nor did I imply me "falling in love" with the guy. No doubt this team needs an upgrade at WR, or even TE, but I'm not bailing on this guy after 2 seasons. Anyone who can conclude a player as mediocre in just his second season, with the sample size Sims has shown, is just being close minded.


Who said anything about bailing on the guy? Where do you get this effin' stuff? LOL

I'm not being close-minded, this is just more of the same when putting the cart before the horse with these kinds of players. He's a role player. I don't know how you extract anything else.

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AFCMiamiEast wrote:
I never said he was the future, nor did I imply me "falling in love" with the guy. No doubt this team needs an upgrade at WR, or even TE, but I'm not bailing on this guy after 2 seasons. Anyone who can conclude a player as mediocre in just his second season, with the sample size Sims has shown, is just being close minded.


Who said anything about bailing on the guy? Where do you get this effin' stuff? LOL

I'm not being close-minded, this is just more of the same when putting the cart before the horse with these kinds of players. He's a role player. I don't know how you extract anything else.


Your "falling in love with mediocrity" comment does a little more than just imply that you believe Sims is mediocre, and not worthy of the 53. Maybe you should have a better choice of words to avoid such a vague interpretation. No need to get so overly passionate about all this.

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