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I actually thought Bill Lazor called some nice plays today and a combination of receivers dropping the ball and Tannehill missing the mark definitely left plays on the field against the Bills today.


Lazor's pass happy philosophy, especially in the first quarter, was disappointing.



Totally agreed. After last year's drubbing by the Bills' defensive line, you would hope for a different game plan.

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We straight up got a taste of our own medicine today fellas.


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Rich wrote:
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I actually thought Bill Lazor called some nice plays today and a combination of receivers dropping the ball and Tannehill missing the mark definitely left plays on the field against the Bills today.


Lazor's pass happy philosophy, especially in the first quarter, was disappointing.


He did recover and go back to running on 1st down...I didn't like a few play calls but for the most part exacution was the problem.

But the going into half thing...WTF?


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I actually thought Bill Lazor called some nice plays today and a combination of receivers dropping the ball and Tannehill missing the mark definitely left plays on the field against the Bills today.


Lazor's pass happy philosophy, especially in the first quarter, was disappointing.


He did recover and go back to running on 1st down...I didn't like a few play calls but for the most part exacution was the problem.

But the going into half thing...WTF?


Didn't we get the ball with something like :54 and all 3 timeouts??

Terrible coaching.

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But the going into half thing...WTF?


I've never seen anything like it . . . Why not even hurry up? The run plays were actually working effectively despite the fact that the coaches decided to tuck tail & turn in

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Yes....the end of the first half was disturbing, but vintage Philbin.

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But the going into half thing...WTF?


I've never seen anything like it . . . Why not even hurry up? The run plays were actually working effectively despite the fact that the coaches decided to tuck tail & turn in



2nd and 3 and you don't hurry..I just don't get it?


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Since the usual blame the refs excuse comes up again (never get disapointed by that excuse) , on the 4th and 3 pickup by the Dolphins , a Dolphin clearly moved before the snap & it was not called. True , not a scoring play but it led to a score.

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Yep....and some defensive holding penalties kept drives alive as well.

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Special teams were responsible for at least 13 points today.

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Kev1321 wrote:
Rich wrote:
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I actually thought Bill Lazor called some nice plays today and a combination of receivers dropping the ball and Tannehill missing the mark definitely left plays on the field against the Bills today.


Lazor's pass happy philosophy, especially in the first quarter, was disappointing.


He did recover and go back to running on 1st down...I didn't like a few play calls but for the most part exacution was the problem.

But the going into half thing...WTF?


21 runs, 53 passes.

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Special teams were responsible for at least 13 points today.


That's all Tannehill's fault, didn't you know that??

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Didn't we get the ball with something like :54 and all 3 timeouts??

Terrible coaching.


We got the ball with 2:30 left.

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Rich wrote:
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Didn't we get the ball with something like :54 and all 3 timeouts??

Terrible coaching.


We got the ball with 2:30 left.


Holy :crap that's even worse!

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Everyone. Who not to blame. maybe Jenkins.


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Blame it on me....I started both Hartline and Wallace


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Landry was awful today returning, two returns that didn't get to the 15 yard line and the boing off his facemask.

He had a couple nice catches though.

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That's all Tannehill's fault, didn't you know that??

This is getting played. RT led us to 10 points. Period. That's 10 points in eight quarters at the Bills. That's 1.25 points a quarter. He's the QB, he needs to make the plays, he needs to be more accurate. YEs, the WRs dropped balls and they have to make plays too, but the QB has to hit the wide open recievers for 1st downs and TDs (wide open Wallace). QBs are the players that should be able to elevate the players around them and hide the teams defeciencies.


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That's 10 points in eight quarters at the Bills. That's 1.25 points a quarter.


1.25 x 4 = 5. Might want to check your math. :haha

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QBs are the players that should be able to elevate the players around them and hide the teams defeciencies.


Tannehill's problem, I think, is that he is not elevating those around him psychologically.

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1.25 x 4 = 5. Might want to check your math.

That's 10 points in eight quarters at the Bills. That's 1.25 points a quarter.

10 points in 8 quarters 1.25x8=10


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I blame Dan Marino for making me a Dolphins fan when I was just a little kid. If he were here right now I'd give him a backhand with my Isotoners.


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I wrote about this on the blog 2 weeks ago. They need to just stop trying to hit Wallace Deep during games. It is deflating to us, imagine what the team goes through every time RT misses a layup.


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1.25 x 4 = 5. Might want to check your math.

That's 10 points in eight quarters at the Bills. That's 1.25 points a quarter.

10 points in 8 quarters 1.25x8=10


Yeah, like I said. Your math is spot on!

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I wrote about this on the blog 2 weeks ago. They need to just stop trying to hit Wallace Deep during games. It is deflating to us, imagine what the team goes through every time RT misses a layup.


Yes, because throwing a 60 yard bomb is a great analogy when being compared to a point blank layup. :hithead:

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Yeah, like I said. Your math is spot on!

lol, no worries


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Rich wrote:
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I wrote about this on the blog 2 weeks ago. They need to just stop trying to hit Wallace Deep during games. It is deflating to us, imagine what the team goes through every time RT misses a layup.


Yes, because throwing a 60 yard bomb is a great analogy when being compared to a point blank layup. :hithead:


I could walk on the field tomorrow and by the end of practice could hit Wallace in stride. I would suspect a professional QB to be able to make that "lay-up". When I was a coach I had a kid with great speed. He would always get open deep. We would call the play and he could drop the pass every time. He'd catch it in practice...every time. Every game he dropped the pass where it was close, we lost. I quit calling that pass. We started to win more games. The bottom line is it would take the energy right out of the team. I could watch as their excitement grew watching him wide open, the ball on target...then the gut shot when he dropped it. It was mentatlly defeating. It is the same with RT to Wallace. Quit calling the play. They're not going to hit it and you're going to lose momentum when they miss it.


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Maybe the defenses are just taking it away right now, but I imagined so many slants and seam passes where the three headed slot monster - Gibson/Matthews/Landry - would just be tearing up defenders.

I tend to agree a bit with Junkie. Use Wallace on drag routes and come backs. Take shots down field to Hartline and Matthews.

Let Tannehill be a stronger armed Alex Smith for a few weeks. Once his confidence and comfort are where they should be then start getting more aggressive.


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I could walk on the field tomorrow and by the end of practice could hit Wallace in stride.


Cool.

But you could also walk into an NFL game and be in the hospital by the 2nd quarter.

Stop with the stupid analogies and come back to the real world.

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Rich wrote:
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I could walk on the field tomorrow and by the end of practice could hit Wallace in stride.


Cool.

But you could also walk into an NFL game and be in the hospital by the 2nd quarter.

Stop with the stupid analogies and come back to the real world.



You're right...its stupid to think an NFL QB can only hit a wide open WR in stride once in 18 games... what was I thinking :hithead:


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You're right...its stupid to think an NFL QB can only hit a wide open WR in stride once in 18 games... what was I thinking :hithead:


No, it's stupid to think a 50 year old born again workout warrior who might be overestimating his abilities simply because he got in better shape could do it...

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Rich wrote:
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You're right...its stupid to think an NFL QB can only hit a wide open WR in stride once in 18 games... what was I thinking :hithead:


No, it's stupid to think a 50 year old born again workout warrior who might be overestimating his abilities simply because he got in better shape could do it...


It is called hyperbole. Chad Henne could hit half those passes. :haha


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The issue MOST the time is Tannehill waits too dang long to throw the ball and Wallace is so fast that by the time the ball is there he is having to turn back and he isn't the best at going up and getting it, like say Dez Bryant or Calvin Johnson, or Andre Johnson. The bomb to Hartline (granted it was slop time) was right on the money but went through Hartline. So, with that in mind, why not send Hartline deep more (He won't drop em all).

Let's save the Uncle Rico stories for someone who is gullible. 9/10 of us would get beat out by Tim Tebow.


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Anyone have a photo of the Hartline drop?

Just read an article that broke down some of the passing problems. I didn't get to see the whole game and missed these drops. Man the Clay and Miller drops were UGLY and ill timed.

Something has to give for this problem. It can't be RT looking like Pat White in the first half and the receiving group looking like CFL receivers in the 2nd half.


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NFLJunkie wrote:
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You're right...its stupid to think an NFL QB can only hit a wide open WR in stride once in 18 games... what was I thinking :hithead:


No, it's stupid to think a 50 year old born again workout warrior who might be overestimating his abilities simply because he got in better shape could do it...


It is called hyperbole. Chad Henne could hit half those passes. :haha

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Anyone have a photo of the Hartline drop?

Just read an article that broke down some of the passing problems. I didn't get to see the whole game and missed these drops. Man the Clay and Miller drops were UGLY and ill timed.

Something has to give for this problem. It can't be RT looking like Pat White in the first half and the receiving group looking like CFL receivers in the 2nd half.


More bad passes than drops...I think these guys are just surprised when the ball actually does make it to them. j/k
On one play the safety reads a pass to the back MIller I think.COmes racing up and hit him as the ball gets to him(screen/dump pass). T hill don't see this coming and look for an open guy or throw it away...He is not seeing the open guy and forcing the issue too much. When the pocket is collapsing in front of you get rid of the ball!


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The issue MOST the time is Tannehill waits too dang long to throw the ball

This is part of the problem with all the sacks he takes.


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The issue MOST the time is Tannehill waits too dang long to throw the ball

This is part of the problem with all the sacks he takes.


The whole timing is off..the wr are already turned before he throws the ball...you don't see the ball there when the wr turns his head. Gives the defense too much time to react.


Looks like he is at practice not playing full speed...Throw the darn ball!


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No, it's stupid to think a 50 year old born again workout warrior who might be overestimating his abilities simply because he got in better shape could do it...

Glad I read this thread prior to replying. Oh yea, in case I did not tell you. I can kick 85 Yds FG. The thing is I would have to do it from the comfort of being behind my keyboard. Not sure why it works out that way. It just does.


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The issue MOST the time is Tannehill waits too dang long to throw the ball

This is part of the problem with all the sacks he takes.


He has bad pocket awareness, the game seems to move to quickly for him, and it shows on his reads, as well as not being able to recognize and act, when there's pressure.

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He has bad pocket awareness, the game seems to move to quickly for him, and it shows on his reads, as well as not being able to recognize and act, when there's pressure.

Probably what happens when you draft a QB who has extreme limited college experience in the top ten and then place him behind an inadequate line with no running game or very talented WR.


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