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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:02 pm 
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Guys, no question, we are all entitled to share opinions and I agree with the Tanny detractors that he needs to continue to improve, but I personally grow tired of the forum bashing him immediately after a loss and how some folks drag Tannehill through the mud and just tear him apart.

I don't like it either when he misses some of his passes and especially the perceived wide open ones, but in all fairness, he was up against what was probably the best front 4 in the NFL and Lazor really called some nice play calls that Tannehill executed, but that the receivers also dropped.

In fact, I can name several that Tannehill put into the receivers hands only for them to drop and those are momentum and drive killers and it plain and simple sets the QB back.

In fact, some of those forced situations to throw after a receiver drops the ball causes 3rd and long just simply allows a team like Buffalo to pin their ears back and get after Tannehill.

If Miami plays more fundamentally sound ball on offense, this would have been a closer fought game.

Throw in poor special teams play; bad field position most of the game; some bad tackling and coverage adds up to a team loss IMO.

Tannehill was NOT the main reason Miami lost this game, it was a combination of errors along with Buffalo just simply outplaying Miami in different facets of the game.


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No disrespect F34, but all I continue to hear are excuses for his mediocrity.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:07 pm 
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Tannehill deserves his share of the blame. This is his 3rd year. He was not poised. He holds the ball too long (coaches need to move him out of the pocket more). He can't throw a deep ball. He is serviceable and provided the team can run the ball, he could be a game manager type of QB, but that seems to be it. Draft a QB next year and try to improve the team.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:10 pm 
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Yup!

Tannehill let the punt get blocked, and can't tackle Spiller and can't field a punt....

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FrustratedFinFan wrote:
Tannehill deserves his share of the blame. This is his 3rd year. He was not poised. He holds the ball too long (coaches need to move him out of the pocket more). He can't throw a deep ball. He is serviceable and provided the team can run the ball, he could be a game manager type of QB, but that seems to be it. Draft a QB next year and try to improve the team.


Except he put a TD right in Hartline's hands, in perfect stride, and he DROPPED it.


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No....he threw a catchable ball BEHIND Hartline. If the pass was accurate, then he would have led Hartline. The underthrow gave the defender a chance at making a play when Hartline had split the coverage. Hartline should have caught it, but the pass was not accurate.

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Rock, no question I agree Tannehill is a playing inconsistently as I mentioned this after watching that Pats game last week and definitely shares some blame. I had a bad feeling again that Buffalo just gets the best of Tannehill ; a bad matchup for whatever reason facing that front 4. Nevertheless, I also agree that he needs to take his game to the next level in order for this team to excel and have a chance to make the playoffs.

Only the second game; time will tell, but I will say this, if he does not turn this season around; the Dolphins could very well have another QB competition next season.....I will be there for next week's KC game and I believe they will turn this around and play much better.


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Except he put a TD right in Hartline's hands, in perfect stride, and he DROPPED it.

Incorrect. To be a drop the Wr actually has to touch the ball. That one went right between Hartline hands without being touched. That is what 6 million is getting Miami.


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FinHead you know I'm not a basher, but today wasn't one of his better days. His throws weren't as inaccurate, but his decision making was bad. He held the ball again today, and it showed. Our line wasn't great but he HAS to get the ball out of his hands.

Offensively we just can't play like that....we had a freakin 4th and 36 or somethin close.


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Dphins4me wrote:
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Except he put a TD right in Hartline's hands, in perfect stride, and he DROPPED it.

Incorrect. To be a drop the Wr actually has to touch the ball. That one went right between Hartline hands without being touched. That is what 6 million is getting Miami.


You are right. I stand corrected.

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Rambo: I absolutely agree Tannehill needs to make improvements in his game in order for this team to be successful. Today it was a combination of a lot of things, but he also needs to get better.

I will right away go on record and predict next week's game against KC will be a better game from Tanny and hopefully a way for him to regain more confidence. I will be sitting in the stands cheering for him!


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Finhead34 wrote:
Rambo: I absolutely agree Tannehill needs to make improvements in his game in order for this team to be successful. Today it was a combination of a lot of things, but he also needs to get better.

I will right away go on record and predict next week's game against KC will be a better game from Tanny and hopefully a way for him to regain more confidence. I will be sitting in the stands cheering for him!


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Except he put a TD right in Hartline's hands, in perfect stride, and he DROPPED it.

Incorrect. To be a drop the Wr actually has to touch the ball. That one went right between Hartline hands without being touched. That is what 6 million is getting Miami.


Hartline is kind of a waste more often than not.


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I was wondering myself why wasn't Hartline used more today? I couldn't tell if he wasn't getting open or if he just wasn't part of the plan today.

Seems like we threw to Sims more, which I would love if he was as sure handed ha

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Hartline is kind of a waste more often than not.

How he got that type deal from Ireland is beyond me.


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How he got that type deal from Ireland is beyond me.


Same guy who gave Wheeler and Ellerbe pay days.

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Yeah....we are going to feel the burn from a few Ireland deals for a few years. We get Buffalo at home on TNF so we get a chance to spit the Buffalo Blues out...yay for HD Phins! I get to see them next week too cause I live in K.C.


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RT is 79 for 149, 705yds, 4 TDs and 5 Picks his last 4 outtings. This is lousy.


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RT is 79 for 149, 705yds, 4 TDs and 5 Picks his last 4 outtings. This is lousy.



Yep.....he needs to up his game. Third year. No more excuses.

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Yep.....he needs to up his game. Third year. No more excuses.

Yes, he needs to be perfect in every way. Every pass has to be perfect. Every read needs to be perfect.

We are Miami and we only know perfection.


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Dphins4me wrote:
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Yep.....he needs to up his game. Third year. No more excuses.

Yes, he needs to be perfect in every way. Every pass has to be perfect. Every read needs to be perfect.

We are Miami and we only know perfection.


No but how about just not stinking up the joint once in awhile. 4 straight games, @Bills, NYjets Home, Patriots Home, @Bills and he has a passer rating in the mid 70s in those outtings.


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Dphins4me wrote:
Yes, he needs to be perfect in every way. Every pass has to be perfect. Every read needs to be perfect.

We are Miami and we only know perfection.


Well when you spin the argument that way, there's nothing to say.

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No but how about just not stinking up the joint once in awhile. 4 straight games, @Bills, NYjets Home, Patriots Home, @Bills and he has a passer rating in the mid 70s in those outtings.


Let's just say his division is very familiar with who he is as a passer.

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No but his numbers stink. 4 straight games, @Bills, NYjets Home, Patriots Home, @Bills and he has a passer rating in the mid 70s in those outtings.


Check out Big Ben 1st 3 games of his 3rd Yr. 0 TDs - 7 Ints. 30% QBR


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No but how about just not stinking up the joint once in awhile. 4 straight games, @Bills, NYjets Home, Patriots Home, @Bills and he has a passer rating in the mid 70s in those outtings.


Let's just say his division is very familiar with who he is as a passer.


Well division games are tough for a reason. So tell me again why we haven't figured out the Bills?


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Dphins4me wrote:
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No but his numbers stink. 4 straight games, @Bills, NYjets Home, Patriots Home, @Bills and he has a passer rating in the mid 70s in those outtings.


Check out Big Ben 1st 3 games of his 3rd Yr. 0 TDs - 7 Ints. 30% QBR


Why don't we compare him to Ryan Leaf?


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Dphins4me wrote:
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No but his numbers stink. 4 straight games, @Bills, NYjets Home, Patriots Home, @Bills and he has a passer rating in the mid 70s in those outtings.


Check out Big Ben 1st 3 games of his 3rd Yr. 0 TDs - 7 Ints. 30% QBR


Yep....but he got a Super Bowl before that. He is still a quality starter. How many playoff wins does Tannehill have?

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Ryan Tannehill cost us last year and this year as well, lets trade him now and go with Matt Moore and let the year unfold and position ourselves for the draft next season.

This team will go no where with "RAT'".

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That pick in todays game was during slop time.

As I sit here and watch the Broncos Chefs, I can't help but notice how good the receivers in DEN are. Manning is a great QB but the receivers really catch the ball well. Mike Wallace drops a head scratcher, then catches that 1 handed, behind him, eyes closed, *insert adjective*, throw.

Inconsistencies will ultimately tear us apart.


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That pick in todays game was during slop time.

As I sit here and watch the Broncos Chefs, I can't help but notice how good the receivers in DEN are. Manning is a great QB but the receivers really catch the ball well. Mike Wallace drops a head scratcher, then catches that 1 handed, behind him, eyes closed, *insert adjective*, throw.

Inconsistencies will ultimately tear us apart.


Kind of sux when it surprises the WR when the ball is right on target.


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NFLJunkie wrote:
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That pick in todays game was during slop time.

As I sit here and watch the Broncos Chefs, I can't help but notice how good the receivers in DEN are. Manning is a great QB but the receivers really catch the ball well. Mike Wallace drops a head scratcher, then catches that 1 handed, behind him, eyes closed, *insert adjective*, throw.

Inconsistencies will ultimately tear us apart.


Kind of sux when it surprises the WR when the ball is right on target.


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That pick in todays game was during slop time.

As I sit here and watch the Broncos Chefs, I can't help but notice how good the receivers in DEN are. Manning is a great QB but the receivers really catch the ball well. Mike Wallace drops a head scratcher, then catches that 1 handed, behind him, eyes closed, *insert adjective*, throw.

Inconsistencies will ultimately tear us apart.



Why did we pay so much for an "inconsistent" receiver? There is a reason his TD numbers and YPC are down in Miami....

http://www.nfl.com/player/mikewallace/2507763/profile

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how some folks drag Tannehill through the mud and just tear him apart.


This is when you can tell who are the classless fans from the humans...

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Rich wrote:
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how some folks drag Tannehill through the mud and just tear him apart.


This is when you can tell who are the classless fans from the humans...



It's how you tell knowledgeable, mature fans from.....others.

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The thing about RT is that he needs step up his game and others will follow. He is the QB. Is he perfect, no, but no QB is. THe problem with the Fins is that he overthrows on 3rd down and when he puts the ball on the money on 3rd down, the recievers drop them. It's a horrible formula that kills us. WE are not good enough to overcome the inconsistent play of this entire team. He needs to improve, no question.


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The thing about RT is that he needs step up his game and others will follow. He is the QB. Is he perfect, no, but no QB is. THe problem with the Fins is that he overthrows on 3rd down and when he puts the ball on the money on 3rd down, the recievers drop them. It's a horrible formula that kills us. WE are not good enough to overcome the inconsistent play of this entire team. He needs to improve, no question.


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Makchell wrote:
The thing about RT is that he needs step up his game and others will follow. He is the QB. Is he perfect, no, but no QB is. THe problem with the Fins is that he overthrows on 3rd down and when he puts the ball on the money on 3rd down, the recievers drop them. It's a horrible formula that kills us. WE are not good enough to overcome the inconsistent play of this entire team. He needs to improve, no question.


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The thing about RT is that he needs step up his game and others will follow. He is the QB. Is he perfect, no, but no QB is. THe problem with the Fins is that he overthrows on 3rd down and when he puts the ball on the money on 3rd down, the recievers drop them. It's a horrible formula that kills us. WE are not good enough to overcome the inconsistent play of this entire team. He needs to improve, no question.


Like I said in my blog, I don't see him rising to the occasion.

It shouldn't be Moreno sparking the offense.

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Tannehill deserves whatever he gets after the way he played today.

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If this type of play from Tanne keeps up, how long until he gets the hook?

He was bad today.

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