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### One of the criticisms of this Dolphins team, under this staff, is that they take on the unemotional personality of their coach. And though Mike Wallace has never said that, he reiterated Tuesday that he was bothered Sunday that “I didn’t see anybody playing with emotion out there. We needed to be more into it.”


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Philfin did get emotional when DC$ missed a FG at 26-10, with less than 5 mins left...

Too little, too late.

It seemed weird.

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Finster wrote:
Philfin did get emotional when DC$ missed a FG at 26-10, with less than 5 mins left...

Too little, too late.

It seemed weird.


He was really excited about that first down we got with 30 seconds left in the game.

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Tannehill needs to start getting in people's faces.

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Wallace needs to work on his receiving, in particular learning how to get 2 feet down in the endzone when a perfect pass is thrown to you!

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Tannehill needs to start getting in people's faces.

Yep.

Wallace needs to work on his receiving, in particular learning how to get 2 feet down in the endzone when a perfect pass is thrown to you!

That was a perfect throw? :haha


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That was a perfect throw?


I don't know what game was being watched? Wallace got behind Revis by 10 yards. The throw was leading Wallace out of bounds and on my take Wallace was concentrating on catching the ball for sure and just wasn't field aware enough of where he was at that moment.

You can argue that a "perfect pass" would have led him IN the end zone with all that space to do it, but throwing on the run rolling out was a tough one. It was nicely done, just not quite enough unfortunately.


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Rich wrote:
Tannehill needs to start getting in people's faces.


He needs to put up or shut up. Hit that deep pass to Wallace 50% of the time and the haters go away. That alone would show leadership. Marino got in peoples faces but if you play like crap...that won't go over well.


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For Wallace to come down in bounds with that pass he would have had to make a Lynn Swan type catch, the ball was out of bounds when he caught it.

Further, he had to adjust to catch it, it wasn't a "leading" pass out of bounds, but I agree with Finhead, it was a decent pass for being on the run, but on the other hand, it's par for the course, not on target.

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Rich wrote:
Finster wrote:
Philfin did get emotional when DC$ missed a FG at 26-10, with less than 5 mins left...

Too little, too late.

It seemed weird.


He was really excited about that first down we got with 30 seconds left in the game.


:haha

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I have always had the feeling that RT has the attidude of (Common chill, its only a game).


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You can have a calm and cool attitude when you're a winning team. This squad hasn't earned that yet.

I'm afraid Philbin's attitude (and Sherman's in the past) leaked into Tannehill which leaked into a lot of the offense.

I forget which writer focused on it but he basically said Tannehill has to unlearn what Philbin and Sherman taught and find an internal fire to rally the guys behind him. Like Rich said, start getting in guys' faces and communicate with them more about mistakes and adjustments. Don't just look at the jumbo tron and then go study photos with your OC.


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Finster wrote:
For Wallace to come down in bounds with that pass he would have had to make a Lynn Swan type catch, the ball was out of bounds when he caught it.

Further, he had to adjust to catch it, it wasn't a "leading" pass out of bounds, but I agree with Finhead, it was a decent pass for being on the run, but on the other hand, it's par for the course, not on target.


Absolutely, 100% wrong. Ball was still in the endzone, in front of him. He caught it in the endzone, but his feet were out.

Go watch it again.

Scott Chandler made a catch 100 times more difficult and he is a TE.

Stop hating, you are wrong.

Accept it, move on.

Oh and GREAT WRs like Lynn Swann make that catch. You are admitting that Wallace is not a great WR.

Thanks! :yay:

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Finster wrote:
For Wallace to come down in bounds with that pass he would have had to make a Lynn Swan type catch, the ball was out of bounds when he caught it.

Further, he had to adjust to catch it, it wasn't a "leading" pass out of bounds, but I agree with Finhead, it was a decent pass for being on the run, but on the other hand, it's par for the course, not on target.


Absolutely, 100% wrong. Ball was still in the endzone, in front of him. He caught it in the endzone, but his feet were out.

Go watch it again.

Scott Chandler made a catch 100 times more difficult and he is a TE.

Stop hating, you are wrong.

Accept it, move on.

Oh and GREAT WRs like Lynn Swann make that catch. You are admitting that Wallace is not a great WR.

Thanks! :yay:


No Wallace isn't a great WR, he never has been.

Your statements are about as accurate as Tanne, lol.

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Disagree with you guys on Wallace. That throw was in bounds. Wallace's field awareness was terrible. There is a slow motion video of it in the thread I started.

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Rich wrote:
Disagree with you guys on Wallace. That throw was in bounds. Wallace's field awareness was terrible. There is a slow motion video of it in the thread I started.


I told you, they HATE facts.

They want to fit their agendas, that's it.

You are confusing them with the truth.

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I told you, they HATE facts.

They want to fit their agendas, that's it.

You are confusing them with the truth.


What the hell are you talking about?


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Makchell wrote:
Tannehill needs to start getting in people's faces.

Yep.

Wallace needs to work on his receiving, in particular learning how to get 2 feet down in the endzone when a perfect pass is thrown to you!

That was a perfect throw? :haha


No, but it was embarrassing to see a professional football player not make that play, especially considering the guy is paid top 3 elite money. It was a horrific attempt.

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Makchell wrote:
I told you, they HATE facts.

They want to fit their agendas, that's it.

You are confusing them with the truth.


What the hell are you talking about?


Didn't you know Mak? His opinions ARE fact...

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silentfaith wrote:
I have always had the feeling that RT has the attidude of (Common chill, its only a game).


He reminds me of a SoCal boy. I've never gotten the "intense competitor" vibe from him in any interview he's ever done.

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Finhead34 wrote:

I don't know what game was being watched? Wallace got behind Revis by 10 yards. The throw was leading Wallace out of bounds and on my take Wallace was concentrating on catching the ball for sure and just wasn't field aware enough of where he was at that moment.

You can argue that a "perfect pass" would have led him IN the end zone with all that space to do it, but throwing on the run rolling out was a tough one. It was nicely done, just not quite enough unfortunately.
Looks pretty dang good to me, but I'm not emotionally involved with him either.

Here is the video evidence.

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Throwing the ball 50 yards in the air while on the run and hitting Wallace in stride is pretty impressive.

Yes, the throw could have been a little more to the left, but again he was rolling right and throwing it on the run. That was a pretty darn good throw that a lot of QBs can't make.

That would have also been a pretty darn good catch that a lot of WRs CAN make.

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We should get Tannehill in more situations where he is throwing deep on the run. He seems to get better air under the ball when he is on the run.

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Rich wrote:
Throwing the ball 50 yards in the air while on the run and hitting Wallace in stride is pretty impressive.

Yes, the throw could have been a little more to the left, but again he was rolling right and throwing it on the run. That was a pretty darn good throw that a lot of QBs can't make.

That would have also been a pretty darn good catch that a lot of WRs CAN make.


I agree Rich, it's actually one of his best thrown deep passes, not far off the mark, but I disagree that Wallace should have made the catch in bounds, watch the all 22 and you can see the ball was out of bounds when Wallace caught it.

The only way Wallace has a chance to catch that ball in bounds was if he hhad looked over his right shoulder, but the play isn't designed to be an outside throw, it's an inside throw, and for Wallace to turn his entire body to the other side and re acquire the ball in the air would be asking too much.

No one should be faulting Tanne, or Wallace on this play, they both tried to make a play and were about 6 -8 inches off of a TD.

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the ball was out of bounds when Wallace caught it.

Yep

No one should be faulting Tanne, or Wallace on this play, they both tried to make a play and were about 6 -8 inches off of a TD.

And yep


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I did watch that play on the coach's film. It wasn't so far out of bounds that Wallace couldn't have caught it.

Wallace could have made the catch if he wasn't a body catcher.

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Makchell wrote:
the ball was out of bounds when Wallace caught it.

Yep

No one should be faulting Tanne, or Wallace on this play, they both tried to make a play and were about 6 -8 inches off of a TD.

And yep


And yet the fact is ignored that about 15-20 WRs in the NFL make that catch routinely.

Convenient how that is always left out.

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Rich wrote:
I did watch that play on the coach's film. It wasn't so far out of bounds that Wallace couldn't have caught it.

Wallace could have made the catch if he wasn't a body catcher.


THIS^^^^^

I have said that all along about Wallace. He rarely catches with his hands, always lets the ball get into his body.

That's why he is nothing but another James Jett, all speed, no catch.

Not elite in any way.

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And yet the fact is ignored that about 15-20 WRs in the NFL make that catch routinely.

Convenient how that is always left out.


You can't prove that.


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Makchell wrote:
And yet the fact is ignored that about 15-20 WRs in the NFL make that catch routinely.

Convenient how that is always left out.


You can't prove that.



Legit question. Do you have Sunday Ticket? I watch the Red Zone channel every Sunday, haven't missed a Dolphins game in 17 years. I have seen MANY WRs make ridiculous catches, every, single Sunday.

Yes, I can prove it. With my eyes, by watching the games.

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Legit question. Do you have Sunday Ticket? I watch the Red Zone channel every Sunday, haven't missed a Dolphins game in 17 years. I have seen MANY WRs make ridiculous catches, every, single Sunday.

Yes, I can prove it. With my eyes, by watching the games.


Yes I do and yes, recievers make spectacular catches all the time including a spectacular one handed catch by Wallace for a TD. You are talking about a specific pass that RT threw on the run (which was awesome BTW) but couldn't hook up with Wallace. You said 15-20 WR could catch that ball routinely, I say BS. You changed the debate to WR making spectacular catches all day. Which one is it?


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Lazor needs to start trying to get the ball to Landry in open space. Let him create after the catch.


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Yes emotion, excitement, thats what has been missing all along...

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Trying to pin this on one person or thing is useless... 53 man team lead by a coaching staff.

If the blame has to fall on one person it is the person who decides the final game plan, 53 man roster and who plays on sunday...

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Makchell wrote:
Legit question. Do you have Sunday Ticket? I watch the Red Zone channel every Sunday, haven't missed a Dolphins game in 17 years. I have seen MANY WRs make ridiculous catches, every, single Sunday.

Yes, I can prove it. With my eyes, by watching the games.


Yes I do and yes, recievers make spectacular catches all the time including a spectacular one handed catch by Wallace for a TD. You are talking about a specific pass that RT threw on the run (which was awesome BTW) but couldn't hook up with Wallace. You said 15-20 WR could catch that ball routinely, I say BS. You changed the debate to WR making spectacular catches all day. Which one is it?


That would not have been a ridiculous catch by Wallace. Ball in the bread basket, if he had attacked the ball rather than waiting for it to fall right into his belly, he would have had time to adjust his feet.

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Was that Tony after a 1st down?


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Was that Tony after a 1st down?

No, first downs were stand still arm hack and clap. That was the running double arm hack clap, definitely a field goal...


Good thing we didnt score a TD, his head would have exploded

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Yes emotion, excitement, thats what has been missing all along...

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Lol, this one is my favorite:

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Makchell wrote:
You said 15-20 WR could catch that ball routinely, I say BS. You changed the debate to WR making spectacular catches all day. Which one is it?


LOL .... that's why I love forums. Someone gets cornered in an argument and they will veer the debate by exaggerating to the extremes in order to marginalize your point.

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LOL .... that's why I love forums. Someone gets cornered in an argument and they will veer the debate by exaggerating to the extremes in order to marginalize your point

Sometimes I feel like I'm talking/typing to a child, it's crazy.


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Makchell wrote:
Sometimes I feel like I'm talking/typing to a child, it's crazy.


I'm just waiting for the "Oh ya, well you're ugly" bombs.

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