The Don wrote:
Are you stying day-drunk these days? Grier has been part of this organization is some form for ~20 something years at this point. Has watched, has helped, has been part of that failure for the entire time, in some aspect. .
Blaming Grier for the failures prior regimes is like blaming the ball boy for the outfielder missing a fly ball, because he was the boy ball the last time an outfielder missed a ball. Simply stupid or an emotionally made comment without thought.
The Don wrote:
And yes, if my boss fails, to some degree we get part of the blame. It's called being part of a team or an organization.
If I sit and tell my boss not to do something and they do it and it fails. Its on them, not me.
The Don wrote:
That's like saying, oh look, we have a Pro-Bowl WR who does his job well, while he's on the worst offense in the league... or you know... "Waddle broke the rookie reception record, he's amazing".... while the offense spits and sputters all year.
An asinine and ignorant point. Makes zero sense. One player cannot carry a team, especially a Wr.
The Don wrote:
My question to you is, while you're quick to say we're wrong about Grier, but all you keep doing is saying that... so tell me... what makes him great... go ahead.... support Grier being the man for the past 20 years in the capacity he's been hired to do... why is this Grier so special and shoudl have kept his job when Flores was fired? Be careful what you say with the draft crap... because he's failed more than he's hit on.... go on... we're waiting.
See fans like you typically view things with tunnel vision. I only see what I want to see. If one looks hard enough for something, they will see it.
Lack of thought comment to blame Grier prior to him becoming the man making the decisions. Being blamed for being an advisor is simply naive. I've advised my boss many times on things only to be told different and watch them do it different. When it fails, I pick up the pieces and fix it.
Fans sits on draft day listening to the talking heads tell everyone how great this pick is and how he is instantly upgrade their team. There are no gurus ( See NFL Networks DRAFT EXPERT pick, he sucked, but prior he was an NFL DRAFT EXPERT. ) I figured him out when he told us all UNC Wr Greg Little was going to be a star. I drafted him and he was a nothing. Then I started noticing.
However, fans fail to see other GMs of even better teams also miss on picks. Griers drafts have had their hits and misses, just like every other GM in the NFL. He has hit on undrafted FA ( Needham - Sieler ) to name two.
Grier took control in 2019. Took Wilkens. You have issues with him? Took Van Ginkel/Gaskins late in the draft and they have been solid contributors. You have issues with them? Dieter has played, but yet to establish himself.
Its always the 2020 draft Miami fans that hate Grier cling to. He drafted Tua. Of course Herbert has outplayed him, so it was the wrong decision, but yet a few months earlier they were cheering "Tank for Tua " Herbert makes the Tua pick look bad, but yet has as many play off games to his resume as Tua and Tua has ten time the less talent around him and a coach undermining him, plus the infamous co-OC debacle from last yr. Of course Jackson & Igby so far have been failures, but also found Robert Hunt, Raekwon Davis, Brandon Jones and a solid LS at the bottom of the draft. Kindley was solid his rookie yr, but something happened last yr.
In 2021 Grier knocked it out of the park. Dropped three spots and picked up an extra 1st. Still landed the Wr that broke the rookie reception record. Rookie De that blossomed as the season went on in Phillips and landed Holland in Rd. 2. A safety that looks to be a perennial all-pro. All three with solid rookie seasons under their belt and potential to be great. You have issues with them?
In 2022. He trades for one of the best WR in the NFL and IMO a low moral character in Hill. Still lands what many talking heads believe to be a solid LBer in Tindall. The Wr he took is currently being praised with his camp.
He also has been great at managing the cap repairing the cap hell Tannebaum put Miami in.
Damn, he has actually been more solid than I originally thought.
Grier has missed on draft picks. I think he reached on Igby, but I do also think Flores wanted him.
A couple more things. Out of the 32 GMs. Where would Grier rank on drafted player being at least solid contributors versus bust.
Provide me one ( just one ) GM that hasn't had his missed on draft day. Oh yea, we're waiting.