Rock Sexton wrote:
Phin makes a great point. When it comes to Moore, all you can talk about is what he did last year, but you never seem to concede what Moore cannot do. And if you look at his numbers, there is a whole lot he cannot do. When it comes to Tannehill, all you can talk about is what he cannot do, not what he can do. Perhaps if you paid attention to what has transpired over the offseason you'd realize that our staff and fan base are higher on Tannehill than Moore at this point. They want to see this kid get in there sooner than later and not delay the inevitable. These fans also see the big picture, and that is Tannehill leading this team back to the playoffs.
Phin does not make a great point. I am not hyping Matt Moore. I have maintained he's deserving of competing the starting spot for this year. I've fully attested to what Matt Moore cannot do "yet" ..... from eliminating holding the ball too long and proving he can win in crunch time. Alas, his body of work with a functional offense and O-Line is too small to come to a conclusion yet. But Tannehill can already lead us to a playoff game right? LOL.
What has transpired besides literally being dramatically influenced into drafting some QB talent (regardless of what Ireland has said) by an irate fan base? This is a man who previously was slated for 2nd round status before other QB's backed out and he had a pro day of some pitch and catch. Nothing changed about the guy who couldn't put the team on his back vs. upper echelon competition in college. But that's the fault of the players around him right? Not for Matt Moore right with guys like Marshall dropping TD's and his O-line having him run for his life? Familiarity in a QB desperate league got the kid drafted at #8, a spot with immense expectations ..... not the talent alone.
Speaking of his talent .... the guy is confident, can really hit the outside patterns and is extremely athletic for the position, but he lacks the consistency in the middle of the field, hitting his WR's in stride (as opposed to traditional WCO comeback routes) ..... but the biggest knock him was his production in pressure situations (big disparity) .... and this is a guy in another thread you're hyping to get a Week 1 start? Wait til he sees a real NFL defense in full speed, especially if our O-line isn't settled yet. But wait, now you're going to tell me Jonathon Martin's transition to RT will be seemless and automatic. That train won't be late.
The plan for Tannehill is to be our franchise quarterback. That's the plan for him. Nobody knows what the plan for Moore is, and that is because he's not seen as a long term player for us. He's simply a carry over from the Sparano era. He's a solid backup, I'll give you that. But he just isn't starting material in my opinion. I've never said Tannehill is a lock to be great, I've only said things like I can see why they like him, and that he's a great prospect. I've never said he's a lock to be anything other than our future starter. It's almost impossible to predict what a rookie will or will not be. But you can judge them by what they have said and done thus far. I've liked what little I have seen of Tannehill thus far.
The plan is to attempt to "develop" him into our franchise quarterback .... and now I see you're backing off your Tannehill hyperbole. I love it. You claim to have seen little and yet you already know he's a lock to be a future starter. You don't know the future of these guys any better than I do. There are no guarantees for either of them. However they're both young enough to groom. Unlike Garrard.
Make no mistake though from what I'm saying. The pressure is definitely on in Moore's case. He's playing out the last year of his contract. He will need to step up considerably. This offseason he'll get as good a chance as any with a full slate of OTA's, mini-camp, training camp, and preaseason.
As far as me backing off of Tannehill, I haven't. I've simply said I think this kid has the potential to be great, I've never said he's a lock. That's simply you're assumption of what I think. If you paid attention to my posts you'd see that I've said multiple times that nobody knows what Tannehill will be. It's been my basic reason for why we shouldn't rule out Tannehill starting earlier than later.
You think we drafted Tannehill at #8 and we're not going to start him someday. I love how naive you are sometimes!!!
As far as Tannehill taking us to the playoffs, I think Tannehill has that kind of potential to lead us to a playoff game someday, I'm not confident about Moore ever being able to do it. I feel that Tannehill has much more potential than Moore. I think that Moore has reached his full potential as a quarterback, or is extremely close to it. I feel that Tannehill is quite possibly just as good as Moore right now, and if he gets one season under his belt he will be much better than Moore.
When it comes to Moore being able to be groomed into a starter like you say, you sound like the same group of guys that gushed over Tyler Thigpen a couple of years ago. I said it then about Thigpen, and I'll say it now about Moore, he'll never be anything "Moore" than a decent backup and he'll be gone before we know it.
I still think Phin made a great point.