Again people are trying to attribute things to my posts which have no bearing on them. Why you insist on doing this I have no idea except maybe to repeat your own thoughts. Which is fine. Why you include my posts in this is baffling.

Thanks for responding to my post by not addressing any of the questions. There seem to be a theme going on of people using my posts as a launching pad to put down their thoughts, that don't have to do with what I am posting.

I hope it is obvious in my post that I did not say that yards is the only measure of talent.

My question is more along the line of getting an answer to a question like ... so if the Phins have 2 WR who have close to 1000 yard seasons does that mean that those 2 Wr have piss poor talent. Because that is how they have been alluded too. If you did not allude to them that way and don't think that is true about them, maybe the post is not for you?

I quoted what you said and gave what the other side says. Posts get quoted, its not a big deal and not always some shot at the poster.

People need to chill out on the Tannehill topic overall. We've already reached Henne stage 4 battles and the kid only has 10 games under his belt.

this is basically trolling. This guy keeps saying one thing about our 2 WR's. And then when you respond to him he plays Mr. Innocent....."Oh I didnt say that! Please don't include Me in your argument! well guess what Mr. Aqnor, it's a message board where people are going to call you out and challenge what you say. If you can't handle that then don't post.

stop asking so many questions if you get offended when people answer them truthfully.
All your questions do is stir the pot.

it's you who should be having a conversation with yourself. We're all trying to respond to your questions and all you've done is complain and point fingers. Because we don't agree with your viewpoint.

this is basically trolling. This guy keeps saying one thing about our 2 WR's. And then when you respond to him he plays Mr. Innocent....."Oh I didnt say that! Please don't include Me in your argument! well guess what Mr. Aqnor, it's a message board where people are going to call you out and challenge what you say. If you can't handle that then don't post.

Yards is one indicator, but one that can be misleading with WR's.

For starters whose yardage total will be in the range that Bess and Hartline's will be, TD's and YAC are more important stats. Right now, Hartline produces no after the catch ability at all. Bess does, but not down the field or in chunks. Neither makes plays in the redzone or creates touchdowns for themselves.



When I say the weapons are piss poor, (btw, let's stop using this word, I'm tired of it lol), I don't mean that every single player is a bad player. What I mean is that the supporting cast taken as a whole is a bad one. It's no where near even an average WR/TE unit, in my opinion.

Hartline is a solid guy in his role. So is Bess, and even Fasano...but the role Fasano plays, (or should play), is not that of a #1 TE. Hartline and Bess are possession, 3rd WR's, not starters. Combine that with nobody else at those positions even contributing in the slightest, and I'd classify this as a bad group of players.

When you do get a contribution out of somebody else, (Clay), and the protection actually held up in the 4th quarter, we saw how much better the offense, and Tannehill got.

Ryan has been asked to carry this offense himself way too often, and then gets criticized for not being able to do so against Tennessee and Buffalo. That's why I get a bit frazzled talking about all this. People expect way too much out of a guy that nobody thought would be ready to even play a single snap as a rookie.

lol not offended at all.

earlier it was only logical to link your answer to my post, imo.

Really? Based on what, the fact that I didn't quote your post?

If that's what you call logic...

don't kid yourselves, Bess and Hartline are not elite receivers by any stretch. Their numbers were pedestrian before Tannehill started throwing the passes. These guys arent even in the same realm as Julio Jones, Roddy White, Jordy Nelson, Demarius Thomas, Larry Fitzgerald, Reggie Wayne, Calvin Johnson and so-on and so-on....

Hartline has way too many 0 to 2 catch games to ever be considered a #1 WR.

His season is inflated by the Arizona game.

Understatement of the yr.

But Tanny's isn't? The inflated argument is always self-serving.

Tanny's isn't what?

I've seen this "Hartline's stats are inflated by the AZ game" argument a few times from Swerve ..... but I don't see anyone saying that about Tannehill's.

Why does that kind of thing only work against Hartline?

Hey Thrawn...are you talkin' ta me? If you're going to mention me.....did someone mention pot?

BTW, earlier it was only logical to link your answer to my post, imo.

Your opinion challenged what I said in the post.

Tannehill actually led 3 game tying or winning drives in the 4th quarter.

Here's an NFL.com video of the last drive .....good stuff.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/miami-dolphin ... s-comeback

As Rich once said, we need to see Tanny making more plays with his legs to loosen D's up.

He doesn't need to do it much, just often enough to keep defenses guessing. All it takes is for him to take off from the pocket and pick up one or two first downs a game with his feet and it will drive defenses crazy.

WK ....

I'm not just talking about rushing out of the pocket. I'm talking about moving around in the pocket, rolling out, creating time and lanes with his feet.

WK ....

I'm not just talking about rushing out of the pocket. I'm talking about moving around in the pocket, rolling out, creating time and lanes with his feet.