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Will the Dolphins fanchise tag CB Sean Smith?
Yes, they will franchise Sean Smith in a "prove me" year. 27%  27%  [ 4 ]
No, they will let him walk, and replace him with a FA. 67%  67%  [ 10 ]
No, they will sign him to a long term contract. 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:30 am 
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What do you think the Dolphins will do? Keep in mind that the Dolphins overpaid Paul Soliai in 2010 big time by franchising him at $12 million making him one of the 5 highest paid DTs at that time in a 1-time "prove me" deal.


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The Herald and the Palm Beach Post have been in complete disagreement over this issue for the entire offseason. The Post reported earlier on Monday that Smith was "preparing" for the tag, but "rooting strongly against it." Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald insists the Dolphins will not use the franchise tag on free agent CB Sean Smith.Teams could start tagging players on Monday, and they can do so all the way up until March 4.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:59 am 
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I think they wind up tagging him just so they don't lose him in free agency for nothing.

They can tag him and then either trade him or extend him.

There is also the possibility that they can withdraw the tag, but I believe that only happens if he doesn't sign it. He would then become an unrestricted free agent.

I think the Dolphins are willing to tag him and then trade him for a pick as long as it is 2nd round or higher, if they can't reach an extension.

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Rich wrote:
I think they wind up tagging him just so they don't lose him in free agency for nothing.

They can tag him and then either trade him or extend him.

There is also the possibility that they can withdraw the tag, but I believe that only happens if he doesn't sign it. He would then become an unrestricted free agent.

I think the Dolphins are willing to tag him and then trade him for a pick as long as it is 2nd round or higher, if they can't reach an extension.


Might as well right, what do we have to lose? If we can't deal him we have the cap to keep him for the year... win win.


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Not a win win, because he will take up a huge chunk of cap space that could be invested on other players for longer term deals.

If the Dolphins franchise him and he signs the tender, we're stuck with a $10 million cap hit. And that is the risk as Smith is not worth $10 million.

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Rich wrote:
Not a win win, because he will take up a huge chunk of cap space that could be invested on other players for longer term deals.

If the Dolphins franchise him and he signs the tender, we're stuck with a $10 million cap hit. And that is the risk as Smith is not worth $10 million.


That would certanly impact what Miami can do in FA, especially if they bring back Hartline, Clemons and Fasano as well.

Overpaying Smith is one thing, but I'd have a hard team seeing another team deal a high pick and then commit to a big deal. Is Spielman on the other end of this?


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They have plenty of cap room, to where the 1 year investment isn't a big deal.

I think they tag him. They can't afford to lose Sean this Off Season.


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Phins Rock wrote:
They can't afford to lose Sean this Off Season.


They can't afford to lose the player that led the NFL in combined first downs/touchdowns given up?

I'm not so sure about that. Outside of two pretty good games against A.J. Green and Larry Fitzgerald, Smith was not that good of a corner for the Dolphins. You started to see glimpses early in the season, but as the year went on, his play got worse and worse.

I think we can do better for cheaper.

That being said, if they feel the market overvalues Smith, it makes sense to take a risk with the tag.

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46 million in cap space and have to spend what, 89% when all is said and done?

I really don't see the 10m cap hit affecting us that much... still leaves 36 million for rookies, who are all scaled anyways, and any free agents... as well as signing long term deals, which we all know they can just give a bigger signing bonus and lessen the cap hit for the year if they needed to.


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46 million in cap space and have to spend what, 89% when all is said and done?

I really don't see the 10m cap hit affecting us that much... still leaves 36 million for rookies, who are all scaled anyways, and any free agents... as well as signing long term deals, which we all know they can just give a bigger signing bonus and lessen the cap hit for the year if they needed to.


With all the holes we have to fill:

1. Even with resigning Smith, we still need to address cornerback because we are weak at that position, so we'll be investing $10 million in a player who even with him on the roster we have a huge hole

2. A pass rusher opposite Wake

3. A couple of wide receivers, maybe even a tight end

4. An offensive line full of holes

Plus all the holes created by free agents

1. A starting free safety

2. Wide receiver

3. Left (or right) tackle

4. Defensive tackle

You've just reduced the amount of space you have to address this multitude of needs by 25% to sign a player who isn't that good to begin with.

Franchising Paul Soliai made a lot of sense because he WAS (and still is) the run defense. Without Soliai, the run defense suffers considerably.

With Sean Smith, the pass defense already sucks, so does it really suffer that much?

I think they'll tag him because they might feel they can then turn around and trade him or extend him for less than he wants, but it could turn out to be a very wasteful move in an offseason in which we have a ton of needs and are primed to address all of them.

Cap space gets taken up quickly when you start resigning your own free agents and bringing in new ones.

Not to mention, yes we can use a signing bonus to spread out the hit, but contracts can't be backloaded as much as they used to be either.

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Phins Rock wrote:
They have plenty of cap room, to where the 1 year investment isn't a big deal.

I think they tag him. They can't afford to lose Sean this Off Season.



I do not understand some of your fascinations with this guy. I hear constantly about his "physical tools" and that one argument is growing extremely tired. You holler for upside, yet he is entering his 5th season, wouldn't you think he would have hit his prime LAST season? News flash, there is no upside to a CB who has several years of experience with 5 INTs in 65 career games. He isn't a rookie with one down season, it's a consistent performance of overwhelming mediocrity with this guy. Absolutely nothing screams shut down corner/ball hawk about him, it's the polar opposite. . I have seen Randy Starks ON THE LINE make more impact on the ball than Smith.

There is no way I let this guy eat up anywhere near $10m of the cap space which is so essential in building up the team into a perennial contender. My means of replacing him? Either trade up for Miller in swapping our 1st round pick into the top 6-8 while trading 3a (I would push hard for 3a, but may consider a 2nd rounder for Milliner), draft Desmond Trufant with a 2nd, or draft either Trufant OR Milliner while signing a Derek Cox in free agency. I wish luck to Smith where ever he goes, but he is just out of his darn mind in self-valuing himself. It's ludicrous.

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Let him walk. We can get a better corner for less money.


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