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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:40 pm 
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This from NFLDraftIndiser..(NFL Draft Bites)


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#Dolphins have engaged Raiders & Browns in preliminary discussions about trading up. Targeting an Offensive Tackle or Dee Milliner.


Should bring a smile to some of your faces.......

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:50 pm 
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Oakland has the 3rd overall pick and Cleveland has the 6th. If this is true then they are talking about moving up to grab an elite player.

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Oakland has the 3rd overall pick and Cleveland has the 6th. If this is true then they are talking about moving up to grab an elite player.


If they move up to #3, I would think it would be to grab Eric Fisher of Central Michigan. There is a ground swell that Fisher is better than Joeckel, the Texas A & M OT.

#6 Could bring CB Dee Millner of Alabama into play or OT Lane Johnson of Oklahoma.

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Not sure how legitimate that account is Tony.

If it's for Joeckel or Fisher....I don't even know what to say.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:13 pm 
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Until real NFL sources say this i wont believe too much


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Phins Rock wrote:
Not sure how legitimate that account is Tony.

If it's for Joeckel or Fisher....I don't even know what to say.


Someone from this site posted their information before and I have been to the Twitter site a few times.

Don't know whether it is legit or not myself. We will see.

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Most teams talk to others Pre draft. If nothing else to find out what it would cost.
Deals are prepared before draft day. There isn't enough time between picks to negotiate.
But 98% of it is preparation and doesn't happen


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:43 pm 
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It would cost too many picks to move up to 3rd overall. I don't think Joeckel or Milliner are worth the three plus high picks it would take to get up there.

Even at 6th overall we'd wind up giving up our extra 2nd and 3rd to make it happen. Again I think that's a little too rich.

I think we're better off waiting until 12 and seeing what's left. If Lane Johnson is still there, then you pull the trigger. If not, trade back and look for someone like Jonathan Cooper, Chance Warmack, or D.J. Fluker.


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This has been my bold prediction. We are in a rare situation with having the firepower to make a move like this. Go do it Jeff. You've bought almost everything that was needed in Free agency. Now go and get the blue-chip tackle we need.


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phinsfansc wrote:
bobby0112 wrote:
Oakland has the 3rd overall pick and Cleveland has the 6th. If this is true then they are talking about moving up to grab an elite player.


If they move up to #3, I would think it would be to grab Eric Fisher of Central Michigan. There is a ground swell that Fisher is better than Joeckel, the Texas A & M OT.

#6 Could bring CB Dee Millner of Alabama into play or OT Lane Johnson of Oklahoma.


I for one will be popping champagne draft night if we get Fisher. I'm excited.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:53 am 
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Phins Rock wrote:
Not sure how legitimate that account is Tony.

If it's for Joeckel or Fisher....I don't even know what to say.


there have been rumors all week of Miami trading up into the top 8


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:56 am 
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After acquiring CB Brent Grimes, NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah believes the Dolphins could trade up for "an elite" LT.
As Jeremiah put it, he "wouldn't be shocked" if the Dolphins took this approach. Eric Fisher, Luke Joeckel, and Lane Johnson are widely considered the "elite" prospects at the position. We doubt any of the three make it past the Chargers at No. 11, so the Dolphins would likely jump up a few spots in order to land one.


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Have to think this is standard protocol for all teams......it's obvious we and others would like to move up..........just trying to get a sense of the cost and what teams are genuinely interested.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:08 am 
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... o-trade-up

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One week after NFL.com's Jeff Darlington told the "ATL Debate Club" he expects the Miami Dolphins to take an aggressive approach to the draft, we're hearing the same from NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah.
The former league scout pegged the Dolphins as one of three teams poised to trade up. Miami, in theory, wants to hop in front of the San Diego Chargers at No. 11 for the chance to land one of the draft's top three offensive tackles. "All signs point toward" the Kansas City Chiefs grabbing Texas A&M's Luke Joeckel at No. 1, according to Jeremiah, but that still leaves Central Michigan's Eric Fisher and Oklahoma's Lane Johnson.


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I would be pretty ecstatic if we traded up to land any of the big 3 OT's. I'd be pretty upset if we did it to land Milliner. If we're going to pick a CB, I'd rather stay where we are and grab someone that, honestly, I like better than Milliner.

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It would cost too many picks to move up to 3rd overall. I don't think Joeckel or Milliner are worth the three plus high picks it would take to get up there.

Even at 6th overall we'd wind up giving up our extra 2nd and 3rd to make it happen. Again I think that's a little too rich.

I think we're better off waiting until 12 and seeing what's left. If Lane Johnson is still there, then you pull the trigger. If not, trade back and look for someone like Jonathan Cooper, Chance Warmack, or D.J. Fluker.


I know that the trade value chart has been altered, not as costly anymor.
We can make a good move up for a 3rd and a 5th and our 12th overall


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I would be pretty ecstatic if we traded up to land any of the big 3 OT's. I'd be pretty upset if we did it to land Milliner. If we're going to pick a CB, I'd rather stay where we are and grab someone that, honestly, I like better than Milliner.


Bingo! it just makes more sense to move up for a tackle than a corner. I like the corner depth for 4 rounds in this draft. We can still draft 2 corners after trading up for one of the Tackle trio.
But outside of the elite tackle trio there isnt much left. Just Watson and Armstead have a shot at being able to start right away, and many think Watson is a year away from being a starter.

Fact is the strength in this 2013 draft is the "Elite Triumvirate" of tackles.

We'd be fortunate to get one after our amazing free agency run.


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Couldn't agree more Swerve

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If its for an OT, I would imagine the Dolphins are also considering a trade with KC for Branden Albert.

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Guys, I swear I was only mocking that trade to stir up discussion. I didn't realize Ireland scoured Phinfever for draft ideas!!!


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bobby0112 wrote:
If its for an OT, I would imagine the Dolphins are also considering a trade with KC for Branden Albert.


but why? He's almost 30. I'd rather get a franchise tackle to grow with Tannehill.


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Guys, I swear I was only mocking that trade to stir up discussion. I didn't realize Ireland scoured Phinfever for draft ideas!!!


There were rumors of us doing this after our big spending spree. We filled a ton of needs and are sitting here with a stockpile of picks. Makes sense.


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Yay another offensive lineman... rejoice Dolphins fans we're still going to be mediocre!


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Yay another offensive lineman... rejoice Dolphins fans we're still going to be mediocre!


Even after going out and signing proven playmakers? We're still the same old Dolphins?

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bobby0112 wrote:
If its for an OT, I would imagine the Dolphins are also considering a trade with KC for Branden Albert.


Where does that leave our 2nd round pick from last year Johnathan Martin?


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wkloiber13 wrote:
It would cost too many picks to move up to 3rd overall. I don't think Joeckel or Milliner are worth the three plus high picks it would take to get up there.

Even at 6th overall we'd wind up giving up our extra 2nd and 3rd to make it happen. Again I think that's a little too rich.

I think we're better off waiting until 12 and seeing what's left. If Lane Johnson is still there, then you pull the trigger. If not, trade back and look for someone like Jonathan Cooper, Chance Warmack, or D.J. Fluker.


I know that the trade value chart has been altered, not as costly anymor.
We can make a good move up for a 3rd and a 5th and our 12th overall


He're the thing. Our 12th overall pick is worth 1,200 points. To move in front of San Diego we'd have to move up at least two spots and trade with Tennessee. The 10th overall pick is worth 1,300 points. Our 4th round pick is worth 108 points. So in theory, we should be able to trade our 12th overall (12,00 points) and our 4th round pick (108 points) for the 10th overall pick.

But that just simply isn't happening. The Titans would know what we were doing. They'd play the Chargers against us. A very quick bidding war would probably happen. So instead of giving up a 4th, which is a fair trade. We'd wind up giving up probably a 3rd, a 5th, and maybe more.

While I'm a fan of the Dolphins targeting Lane Johnson at 12, or trading up to get him at 10, I'm out if it costs us anything more than a 4th round pick to move up those two spots. Well, maybe I'd pull the trigger for a 4th and a 7th. But that's it.


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bobby0112 wrote:
If its for an OT, I would imagine the Dolphins are also considering a trade with KC for Branden Albert.


Albert is an oversized tackle that plays in a man blocking scheme. He's probably not a good fit. Not only that, but he'll eat up the remainder of our cap space.

There is a reason the Chiefs are trying to move him. One because he's going to be expensive. And two because they want to put Andy Reid's new West Coast offense in and Albert isn't a good fit.

If the Dolphins are kicking the tires on Albert, it's likely because they want to get a one year stop gap to play left tackle just in case they can't draft somebody this year to replace Long.


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Smokescreen.


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Thats true Kloiber, rookies are actually alot cheaper nowadays. Johnson will probably be a better player than Albert for a far cheaper price. It seems it was Ireland's plan all along to draft a franchise tackle when you look at his signings.


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Smokescreen.


Shh ... don't tell the rest of the league, Mak!


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Worked out well for Atlanta selling the farm to grab Julio Jones, I think Dee Milner is most definitely worth the investment. Pair him with Grimes and we have one of the best CB tandems around


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Worked out well for Atlanta selling the farm to grab Julio Jones, I think Dee Milner is most definitely worth the investment. Pair him with Grimes and we have one of the best CB tandems around


Exactly! They sold the farm for a PLAYMAKER

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Exactly! They sold the farm for a PLAYMAKER


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NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah believes Oklahoma LT Lane Johnson has the "most upside of any offensive lineman" in the entire draft, and is the "ideal candidate" to replace Jake Long in Miami.
Johnson is generally considered the third best tackle in the draft behind Luke Joeckel and Eric Fisher, but he's by far the most athletic of the three. He's also the most raw, but that won't stop teams from projecting his talent. The Palm Beach Post reported Tuesday it "(keeps) hearing" the Dolphins will target Johnson with their first pick, but that landing him will require trading up. The Dolphins have the draft-pick cache and impatience to do what it takes to move up.


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I'll make a projection.

Miami will not win or lose one game based on having or not having Lane Johnson in the LT position in 2013 & beyond.


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I'm not in favor of an Olineman...Saying that Pouncey was a great pick other than maybe Kaepernick or Dalton who were 2nds he was best available talent....

I don't see that for this year team or draft


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