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I imagine we'll bring up all the candidates to talk about at some point. Since we started a debate on Huckabee in another thread I thought we'd have one here for us to discuss the real issues.

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Mike Huckabee on Abortion

Life question reflects nation’s nature & equality of humans. (Feb 2008)
Will lead fight for constitutional ban on abortion. (Feb 2008)
I’m pro-life, but have no opinion on Justice O’Connor. (Jan 2008)
No states rights for moral issues like abortion. (Nov 2007)
No tax funding for organizations that promote abortion. (Sep 2007)
Led Arkansas to human life amendment in state constitution. (Sep 2007)
Consensus impossible: pro-choice world fundamentally differs. (Jun 2007)
Hate abortion but allow it is like hate slavery but allow it. (May 2007)
Certainly good day for America when Roe v. Wade is repealed. (May 2007)
Embryonic stem cell research creates life to end a life. (May 2007)
Pro-life includes improving life after birth. (Jan 2007)
Outlaw all abortions; err on the side of life. (Jan 2007)
Pro-life and pro-death penalty, & sees them as far different. (Jan 2007)
Even Americans who are pro-choice are pro-life. (Jan 2007)
Eliminate public funding for abortion organizations. (Nov 2002)
Supports woman’s right-to-know legislation. (Jan 2001)
Pro-life, but respects choice as mandated law. (Jan 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Budget & Economy

Infrastructure projects: start immediately, for stimulus. (Feb 2008)
We’re worse off than in 2000, due to Congress’ over-spending. (Jan 2008)
Rebates of $150 billion help China; widening I-95 helps US. (Jan 2008)
I steered AR from $200M deficit to an $850M surplus. (Jan 2008)
Recessions “trickle-up”--working class hit first & hardest. (Jan 2008)
Infrastructure investment causes long-term economic stimulus. (Jan 2008)
Stimulus plan is $150B from China, to spend on Chinese goods. (Jan 2008)
Fuel prices & subprime mortgages possibly cause recession. (Jan 2008)
Do things differently so people need not sacrifice. (Dec 2007)
To reduce spending, get rid of IRS & revamp DHS. (Nov 2007)
Rein in out-of-control spending and balance the budget. (Sep 2007)
Created state surplus in AR; cut spending to do same for US. (Sep 2007)
Bankruptcy reform: limit Chapter 7; protect states' role. (Feb 2001)
Uphold commitments to states before other spending. (Sep 2001)
Protect local milk supplies with Southern Dairy Compact. (Sep 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Civil Rights

I witnessed firsthand the shameful evil of racism. (Sep 2008)
It’s arrogant for GOP to ignore Hispanics or any group. (Dec 2007)
Racial profiling based on speaking with accent is unAmerican. (Dec 2007)
Got 48% of black vote in AR; embarrassed at national GOP. (Sep 2007)
Address gay behavior if problematic, not gay attitudes. (Jun 2007)
Gay tolerance reflects lack of fixed societal standards. (Jun 2007)
Respect gay couples but no gay adoptions. (Jan 2007)
USA has gone from Barney Fife to Barney Frank. (Jan 2007)
Signed legislation outlawing same-sex marriage in Arkansas. (Dec 2006)
No civil unions; only one-man-one-woman marriage. (Nov 2002)
No affirmative action for state contracts nor colleges. (Nov 2002)
Treat AIDS as plague to be isolated, not civil rights issue. (Nov 1992)
More federal funding of IDEA for disabled education. (Mar 2000)
Support principles embodied in the Equal Rights Amendment. (Feb 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Corporations

80% of all jobs in this country come from small business. (Jan 2008)
Wal-Mart is case study in genius of American marketplace. (Jan 2007)
Consumerism is addictive but tranquility is immaterial. (Oct 2000)

Mike Huckabee on Crime

FactCheck: AR violent crime rate increased under Huckabee. (Jan 2008)
Carried out death penalty more than any other AR governor. (Dec 2007)
Nonsense of Three-Strikes makes system overrun with people. (Sep 2007)
Death penalty is necessary part of criminal justice system. (Sep 2007)
Opposes “hate crimes” legislation. (Sep 2007)
Prosecute all illegal adult pornography. (Sep 2007)
People naturally selfish; only God or punishment prevent it. (Jun 2007)
Defends death penalty biblically as well as politically. (Jun 2007)
Supports death penalty, but only reluctantly. (Jan 2007)
Eliminating parole gives no incentive for rehabilitation. (Jan 2007)
Three Strikes based more on revenge than restoration. (Jan 2007)
Commuted death penalty sentence due to problems at trial. (Jan 2007)
Build more prisons, and privatize their management. (Nov 2002)
Supports flexible federal block grants for crime programs. (Sep 2001)
Tougher juvenile crime penalties; but let states set them. (Aug 1999)

Mike Huckabee on Drugs

1999: doubled methamphetamine sentences. (Dec 2007)
More drug courts & rehab, instead of incarceration. (Sep 2007)
Drug education fails; drug punishment works. (Jun 2007)
Supports drug courts for non-violent drug offendors. (Jan 2007)
Stricter penalties for drug-related crimes. (Nov 2002)
Treatment for drug use instead of incarceration. (Jan 2001)
Curb supply by eradication; change attitudes to curb demand. (Nov 1992)
More federal funding for all aspects of Drug War. (Aug 2000)

Mike Huckabee on Education

Increased school taxes, by court order, and schools improved. (Dec 2007)
Education is a state issue, not a federal issue. (Dec 2007)
Focus on what’s good for students, not good for school. (Dec 2007)
Weapons of Mass Instruction: more science AND more arts. (Dec 2007)
Impeach judges for barring legislature prayers to Jesus. (Sep 2007)
Equal funds for abstinence as contraceptive-based education. (Sep 2007)
Tax-credited programs for Christian schooling. (Sep 2007)
I’m running for president, not writing science curriculum. (Jun 2007)
Ending school prayer was one step in society’s moral decay. (Jun 2007)
Does not believe in evolution. (May 2007)
Incorporate character education into school curriculum. (Jan 2007)
Authorize & advance more charter schools. (Jan 2007)
Replace entire school board for failing schools. (Jan 2007)
Support displaying the Ten Commandments in public schools. (Nov 2002)
SmartStart focuses on high standards and accountability. (Oct 2000)

Arkansas Ed Reform

FactCheck: AR improved test scores, but still below-average. (Dec 2007)
SmartStart: early character-based education. (Jun 2007)
Sends his kids to public school; says other officials should. (Jan 2007)
Reformed AR education with Smart Start & Next Step. (Jan 2007)
Supported creation of Arkansas charter schools. (Dec 2006)
Raise teacher salaries; hire more teachers. (Nov 2002)
First priority: Raise teacher salaries. (Jan 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Energy & Oil

Comprehensive plan for energy independence within ten years. (Jan 2008)
Biofuel mandates are not necessary. (Dec 2007)
Energy independence: let Saudis keep their oil & their sand. (Nov 2007)
Ethanol & biofuels are part of future energy. (Oct 2007)
Kyoto was a mistake, but “Earth in the Balance” is not. (Jan 2007)
Shouldn’t limit oil production while increasing consumption. (Jan 2007)
Explore ways to harness nuclear power. (Jan 2007)
Promote alternative fuel technology. (Nov 2002)
Voluntary partnerships reduce greenhouse gases economically. (Aug 2000)
Kyoto Treaty must include reductions by all countries. (Aug 2000)
More funding to develop domestic energy supplies. (Sep 2001)
Use federal funds for nuclear cleanup, with state input. (Sep 2001)
Share offshore oil development revenue with states. (Sep 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Environment

Stewardship of the air and land and soil is very important. (Feb 2008)
Follow Boy Scout rule: leave earth better than we found it. (May 2007)
Supported conserving Buffalo River in north AR against dams. (Jan 2007)
Conservatives believe in conservation. (Jan 2007)
The earth is the Lord’s; we are merely its caretakers. (Jan 2007)
More state autonomy on brownfields & Superfund cleanups. (Aug 2001)
Support State Revolving Loan Fund for flexible Clean Water. (Aug 2001)
Supports national drought policy, focusing on readiness. (Sep 2001)
Maintain water flow in Mississippi & Missouri Rivers. (Feb 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Families & Children

Strong government relies on strong families. (Feb 2008)
Understand the totality of the American family. (Jan 2008)
Marriage relationship between one man, one woman, for life. (Sep 2007)
High divorce rate fails at presenting role model. (Sep 2007)
Supports convenant marriage; adopted it in Arkansas. (Sep 2007)
Teach kids immovable standards of right & wrong. (Jun 2007)
Supports “covenant marriage”. (Jan 2001)
Purpose of marriage is loving relationship, not happiness. (Oct 2000)
Sensuality-saturated society trades love for lust. (Oct 2000)
Encourage fathers' participation in child-raising. (Sep 2001)
Federal funds & state involvement in fatherhood initiatives. (Aug 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Foreign Policy

Urged ending Cuban embargo as governor; now supports embargo. (Feb 2008)
Impeach judges who yield on our sovereignty. (Feb 2008)
Concerned about Putin’s human rights violations & oppression. (Jan 2008)
Law of the Sea Treaty surrenders our sovereignty. (Jan 2008)
Change tone of Bush’s arrogant bunker mentality. (Jan 2008)
Get as many views as possible regarding foreign policy. (Dec 2007)
Protect US sovereignty, but earn respect abroad. (Dec 2007)
Hugo Chavez was not elected as dictator; no friend of US. (Dec 2007)
Demand accountability from Pakistan for our $10B. (Nov 2007)
Earned right to act on actionable intelligence in Pakistan. (Nov 2007)
Israel should not give up West Bank or Golan Heights. (Nov 2007)
Not yet ready for two-state solution for Israel & Palestine. (Nov 2007)
It’s not OK in Pakistan; bin Laden is hiding there. (Oct 2007)
Law of the Sea Treaty gives away our sovereignty. (Oct 2007)
Genocide in Darfur matched by infanticide of the unborn. (Sep 2007)
We answer to our Constitution, not to international law. (Sep 2007)
Don’t pressure Israel to give up land for promise of peace. (Sep 2007)
Monitor the eradication of legal slavery in Sudan. (Sep 2007)
Avoid ratifying Law of the Sea Treaty. (Sep 2007)
Not the job of the US to export our form of government. (Aug 2007)
Support Israel as strategic ally, but respect Palestine. (Jan 2007)
As governor, visited 41 countries & met with heads of state. (Jan 2006)

Mike Huckabee on Free Trade

Supports NAFTA & CAFTA, if partners “hafta” abide by rules. (Jan 2008)
Fair trade includes lead-free products & playing by rules. (Jan 2008)
A free country must feed, fuel, & fight for itself. (Dec 2007)
We need fair trade because we’re losing jobs. (Oct 2007)
This country can never yield its sovereignty for any reason. (Sep 2007)
Trade sanctions on Saudi Arabia for persecuting Christians. (Sep 2007)
China trade contingent on human rights & product safety. (Sep 2007)
No NAFTA Superhighway from Canada to Mexico. (Sep 2007)
Marketplace pushes innovation to top & prices to bottom. (Jan 2007)
Farm subsidies ok because Europe & Asia do same. (Jan 2007)
Enforce trade law against subsidized Canadian lumber imports. (Sep 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Government Reform

Fundamental difference with McCain on campaign finance. (Feb 2008)
States should be laboratories of good government. (Jan 2008)
Transparency on spending will prune back Congress’ earmarks. (Jan 2008)
Focus on uniting the country. (Dec 2007)
Allow DC residents to vote on getting Representatives. (Sep 2007)
Require photo ID for voting, to avoid fraud. (Sep 2007)
Ok if church identifies candidates who favor its principles. (Sep 2007)
Attacking others’ integrity reflects people’s own immorality. (Jun 2007)
Govern by “Regnat Populus,” AR’s motto “The People Rule”. (Jun 2007)
Honor the Tenth Amendment & strengthen the states. (May 2007)
Supports term limits for state legislators. (Nov 2002)
Limit campaign contributions, but no public funding. (Nov 2002)
Not more government, but more efficient government. (Jan 2001)
Disclose political gifts, but don’t prohibit them. (Oct 2000)
Negative campaigning works with some voters but not with God. (Oct 2000)
Decide based on next generation, not next election. (Oct 2000)
Term limits counter election skewed laws toward incumbents. (Nov 1992)
Change House terms to 4 years, to avoid constant campaigning. (Nov 1992)
Won’t vote for pay raise for myself as member of Congress. (Nov 1992)
Reforms must respect state's rights to select electors. (Aug 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Gun Control

Second Amendmen is about freedom, not about hunting. (Aug 2007)
Owns firearms; enjoys hunting; supports 2nd amendment. (Jan 2007)
Supports self-defense and ‘castle doctrine’. (Jan 2006)
Allow concealed carry. (Nov 2002)

Mike Huckabee on Health Care

Ok to ban smoking from workplaces, but not to ban smoking. (Feb 2008)
Called for isolating AIDS carriers in 1992, not quarantine. (Dec 2007)
1/3 self-insured; 1/3 don’t want it; 1/3 can’t afford it. (Dec 2007)
Crisis from waiting until people are catastrophically ill. (Dec 2007)
FactCheck: 2/3 of uninsured can’t afford insurace, not 1/3. (Dec 2007)
We don’t have a healthcare system; it’s a healthcare maze. (Oct 2007)
Individually-controlled insurance, not government SCHIP. (Oct 2007)
Portable medical records that YOU own, not your doctor. (Sep 2007)
System is upside down; focuses on intervention after illness. (Sep 2007)
Oppose mandated health insurance and universal coverage. (Sep 2007)
Insurance reward for avoiding tobacco, alcohol, obesity. (Sep 2007)
Give Americans Congress’ healthcare, or give Congress ours. (Aug 2007)
Dems want government in charge; GOP want consumers in charge. (Jun 2007)
ARKids: Prevention less expensive than sick children. (Jun 2007)
Focus on health & prevention, not just disease treatment. (Jan 2007)
STOP the culture of chronic disease via self-discipline. (Jan 2007)
The road to obesity is paved with procrastination. (May 2006)
To stop procrastinating: Set date; stick to it; and start!. (May 2006)
Nothing tastes as good as it feels to be healthy. (May 2006)
We don’t have a health-care system but a disease-care system. (Jan 2006)
Guaranteed medical care not government’s responsibility. (Nov 2002)
ARKids First program: record decreases in uninsured. (Jan 2001)
Designed ARKids for preventive healthcare for kids. (Oct 2000)
Supports consumer-driven “medical IRA” with tax-free money. (Nov 1992)
No additional AIDS spending; cancer & vascular victims first. (Nov 1992)
Ban smoking in all public places. (Nov 1992)
Isolate carriers of this plague of AIDS. (Nov 1992)
No federal pre-emption of employee health plan regulation. (Oct 2001)
Protect state tobacco settlement funds from federal seizure. (Apr 1999)

Mike Huckabee on Homeland Security

Use everything at president’s disposal to keep US safe. (Feb 2008)
Support moderate modern evil over Al-Qaeda’s medieval evil. (Jan 2008)
Fight terrorism by increasing spending on armed forces & CIA. (Jan 2008)
Torture is unproductive, and should not be US policy. (Dec 2007)
Kick rear ends if documents destroyed to protect rear ends. (Dec 2007)
Opposes waterboarding; close Guantanamo as a bad symbol. (Dec 2007)
Raise enlistment rates with Veterans’ Bill of Rights. (Sep 2007)
No student visas to citizens of terrorist states. (Sep 2007)
Guantanamo prisoners are treated very well. (Jun 2007)
Better to make mistakes at Guantanamo to protect Americans. (Jun 2007)
Islamic jihadists celebrate death; we have culture of life. (May 2007)
Guard & Reserve did their duty; it’s beginning to wear. (Jan 2007)
Strength is more effective deterrent to war than weakness. (Jan 2007)
Keeping Guantanamo prisoners more important than location. (Jan 2006)
Islamic terror is about worldwide caliphate, not US attacks. (Jan 2006)

Mike Huckabee on Immigration

Illegal immigrants must go home and start over. (Jan 2008)
Build a border fence within 18 months of taking office. (Jan 2008)
Build a border fence using American labor & materials. (Jan 2008)
FactCheck: Yes, supported scholarships for AR illegal aliens. (Dec 2007)
Pathway to citizenship must start at back of line, out of US. (Dec 2007)
Send illegals home so all in US can hold their heads high. (Dec 2007)
Make legal immigration quick, or outsource it if we can’t. (Dec 2007)
FactCheck: AR college bill accepted illegals after 3 years. (Nov 2007)
Punish people who break the law; but not their children. (Nov 2007)
Focus on demand: penalize employers of illegal immigrants. (Sep 2007)
Some anti-immigration advocates are based on racism. (Sep 2007)
People are angry at government for failing to track illegals. (Sep 2007)
Problems with McCain-Kennedy: credibility; secrecy; spending. (Jun 2007)
Allow in professionals as legal immigrants, but seal border. (Jun 2007)
Change rule barring immigrants from running for president. (May 2007)
Path to citizenship if illegals admit guilt & pay fine. (Jan 2007)
Deport the illegal immigrants who don’t do it the right way. (Jan 2006)
Seal the borders in a responsible way. (Jan 2006)
Share costs of legal immigration between states & federal. (Feb 2001)
Federal government should deal with criminal repatriation. (Feb 2001)
Import farm workers from Mexico. (Sep 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Jobs

No class warfare: talk to both rich & poor. (Jan 2008)
Excessive taxes, red tape, and litigation cause job losses. (Dec 2007)
Unions more prominent to fight high CEO salaries. (Oct 2007)
Blacks still face racism & unequal opportunity in job market. (Sep 2007)
No “sexual orientation” in Employment Non-Discrimination Act. (Sep 2007)
Supports farm subsidies & fully-funded crop insurance. (Sep 2007)
More R&D & tax incentives for small farmers. (Sep 2001)
Repeal the federal unemployment "temporary surtax". (Feb 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Principles & Values

I didn’t want to wait for the government to rescue me. (Sep 2008)
Competition breeds excellence, including in the GOP race. (Feb 2008)
Kenneth Copeland is a friend, innocent until proven guilty. (Feb 2008)
Hunted and ate fried squirrel in college days. (Feb 2008)
Without moral absolutes, we are lost and confused. (Feb 2008)
Childhood heroes in AR: Jesus, Elvis, and FDR. (Feb 2008)
American’s greatness is because we’re rooted in our faith. (Feb 2008)
Not exiting; I didn’t major in math; I majored in miracles. (Feb 2008)
Limbaugh is a great voice for conservatism, not infallible. (Jan 2008)
Presumptuous and arrogant to suggest Reagan would endorse me. (Jan 2008)
Only candidate who’s faced Clinton political machine before. (Jan 2008)
Ought to be able to respect people who don’t have any faith. (Jan 2008)
People should deal with the use of faith in my campaign. (Jan 2008)
Declined to answer Boston Globe questions on Executive Power. (Dec 2007)
Treat others as you wish to be treated. (Dec 2007)
I’m a conservative, but I’m not mean about it. (Nov 2007)
The social conservative’s candidate for president. (Oct 2007)
Even if GOP loses elections, we should not lose our honor. (Sep 2007)
N.H. strategy: stick with convictions & straight answers. (Aug 2007)
Not thinking about Vice Presidency despite heavy speculation. (Aug 2007)
Never forget that ordinary citizens are the President’s boss. (Aug 2007)
Valuing life is the country’s most pressing moral issue. (Jun 2007)
Character IS the issue; we DO legislate morality. (Jun 2007)
Our culture of life separates us from Islamic fascists. (May 2007)
America needs optimistic leadership to revive national soul. (Jan 2007)
George W. Bush has done a magnificent job. (Jan 2007)
Vertical lift-up politics rather than horizontal left-right. (Jan 2007)
Finished Little Rock marathon in 4:38 after 3 years training. (Jan 2007)
Thermometer leaders just read room; thermostats adjusts room. (Jan 2007)
Live beyond your lifetime by planting seeds in others. (Oct 2000)
Positive thinking works, if based on positive principles. (Oct 2000)
GOP lost 2006 election because they failed to do their job. (Jun 2007)

Faith & Religion

Judge Romney, & any candidate, by record, not by faith. (Dec 2007)
Jesus was too smart to ever run for public office. (Nov 2007)
I believe the Bible is the word of revelation. (Nov 2007)
Plenty of choices for candidates who don’t believe in God. (Jun 2007)
One worldview will prevail: God-centered or human-centered. (Jun 2007)
Pastors & politicians have same skill set in common. (Jun 2007)
Ten Commandments are basis for appropriate behavior. (Jun 2007)
A “grace Christian”: dislikes “law Christians” AND liberals. (Jun 2007)
My faith does affect my decision process; it explains me. (May 2007)
We are a nation of faith, and we are stewards of God’s world. (Jan 2007)
Ordained Baptist minister; I make no apology for my faith. (Jan 2007)
People of faith feel responsible for God’s world. (Jan 2007)
10 Commandments: principles to live by, not just pop culture. (Oct 2000)
The spiritual side of our lives really does matter. (Oct 2000)
Faith gives us a focus for the future. (Oct 2000)

Personal Background

Defining mistake: neglecting his health for decades. (Aug 2007)
Took office amid felony investigation of Gov. Jim Guy Tucker. (Jun 2007)
Plays bass guitar in rock band “Capitol Offense”. (Jan 2007)
Published four books; completed Little Rock marathon in 4:38. (Dec 2006)
Religious affiliation: Southern Baptist. (Nov 2000)
Member, National Governors Association/Economic Development. (Jan 2001)
Member of Republican Governors Association. (Aug 2001)
Member of Southern Governors' Association. (Sep 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Social Security

Will try to fix Social Security with FairTax. (Jan 2008)
Personalization of retirement funds, not privatization. (Oct 2007)
Personal retirement accounts allow investing in one’s future. (Sep 2007)
Replace payroll tax & fund Social Security with FairTax. (Sep 2007)
No Congressional pensions; give them same deal as citizens. (Nov 1992)
Maintain long-term solvency of Social Security and Medicare. (Aug 2001)
Maintain federal funding of Social Services Block Grants. (Sep 1999)

Mike Huckabee on Tax Reform

Tax system punishes people for working & productivity. (Feb 2008)
Signed tax pledge to not raise marginal tax rates. (Feb 2008)
Supported Bush tax cuts then; I support them now. (Feb 2008)
FactCheck: To be revenue-neutral, FairTax raises some taxes. (Jan 2008)
FactCheck: FairTax does not bring underground into economy. (Jan 2008)
FairTax will tax the average American much less. (Jan 2008)
FairTax and its prebate untax the poor and the elderly. (Jan 2008)
Net change as governor: same income tax; 1› more sales tax. (Jan 2008)
Raising fees is the same as raising taxes. (Jan 2008)
Raised AR net tax burden by $500M to comply with court order. (Jan 2008)
AdWatch: Your worth is from God, not your checking account. (Jan 2008)
FactCheck: 90 cuts + 23 tax increases: net $505M increase. (Jan 2008)
AdWatch: Signed first-ever broad-based tax cut in Arkansas. (Jan 2008)
FactCheck: Passed broad-based tax cut, but not “first ever”. (Jan 2008)
Raised some taxes based on court orders and voter approval. (Dec 2007)
Support FairTax with a tax credit for the poor. (Dec 2007)
FactCheck: FairTax would not eliminate IRS; just change role. (Nov 2007)
FairTax is 23%; Bush’s study missed prebate & other aspects. (Nov 2007)
FairTax untaxes productivity & things which we export. (Oct 2007)
FairTax eliminates all taxes on productivity & saving. (Sep 2007)
Gut this incredibly complex and arcane tax code. (Aug 2007)
Attacked as tax-and-spend by several anti-tax groups. (Aug 2007)
Tax system penalizes productivity; needs complete overhaul. (Aug 2007)
FairTax puts Going-Out-of-Business sign on IRS. (May 2007)
FactCheck: FairTax requires 34% sales tax +$600B entitlement. (May 2007)
Flatter, fairer, finite, family friendly overhaul: Fair Tax. (May 2007)
First governor in Arkansas history to ever lower taxes. (Jan 2007)
Wouldn’t propose new taxes, but won’t pledge against taxes. (Jan 2007)
Raised Arkansas taxes 5 times, but lowered taxes 94 times. (Jan 2007)
Supports national flat tax to keep up with globalization. (Jan 2007)
Eliminated AR marriage penalty & capital gains on home sales. (Jan 2007)
Illustrated hypocrisy with “Tax Me More Fund”. (Jan 2007)
We ought to un-tax innovation, un-tax income. (Jan 2006)
Remove the poorest taxpayers from the tax rolls. (Jan 2001)
No tax increase under any circumstances. (Nov 1992)
No national sales tax or VAT. (Feb 2000)
Let states independently determine estate taxes. (May 2001)

Mike Huckabee on Technology

Post every federal expenditure on Internet without 24 hours. (Feb 2008)
Infrastructure: Stimulus, Safety, Security, & Sustainability. (Feb 2008)
Infrastructure in this country has been neglected. (Jan 2008)
Every $1B spent on infrastructure creates 47,500 jobs. (Jan 2008)
$150B for highway infrastructure is better stimulus package. (Jan 2008)
Improved AR roads, via voter-approved tax increase. (Dec 2007)
We modernized Arkansas & made state accessible online. (Nov 2007)
Air tech is Jetsons but air traffic control is Flintstones. (Oct 2007)
No Fairness Doctrine: no equal time if morally objectionable. (Sep 2007)
Apply broadcast indecency rules to cable networks. (Sep 2007)
Spend on our infrastructure instead of other countries’. (Aug 2007)
Cars’ navigation systems are better than air traffic control. (Aug 2007)
TV is like fire; pols must use it even though it can burn. (Jun 2007)
More bible; less blogs; more music; less network TV. (Jan 2007)
Supports Internet sales tax. (Nov 2002)
Arkansas becoming a leader in e-government. (Jan 2001)
Opposes public electronic voting; wouldn’t focus on issues. (Nov 1992)
Level playing field for Main Street vs. Internet sales tax. (Aug 2001)
Permanent R&D tax incentive & more R&D funding. (Sep 2001)

Mike Huckabee on War & Peace

Islamofascism must disappear from the face of the earth. (Feb 2008)
Leave Iraq with victory and honor, however long it takes. (Jan 2008)
We are making progress in Iraq, Afghanistan, & war on terror. (Jan 2008)
Saddam might have had WMD and got them to Syria before 2003. (Jan 2008)
Don’t second-guess Iraq; pullout would be bigger mistake. (Jan 2008)
Failing to find the WMDs doesn’t mean they weren’t there. (Jan 2008)
Never questioned the surge; never supported timed withdrawal. (Jan 2008)
FactCheck: Correct that Romney did support timed withdrawal. (Jan 2008)
Iraq War: we invaded an imaginary country based on poor info. (Jan 2008)
Know your enemy: jihadists would destroy civilization. (Jan 2008)
Supports Powell Doctrine of overwhelming force. (Jan 2008)
Re-establish diplomatic ties to Iran, so we can move forward. (Jan 2008)
Go after al Qaeda’s safe havens in Pakistan. (Jan 2008)
Stay in Iraq because we’re winning; we lose if we walk away. (Dec 2007)
Train & arm Kurds to prevent cross-border PKK incursions. (Oct 2007)
Attack Iran’s nukes even if Congress says no. (Oct 2007)
Many don’t comprehend the threat: they want our obliteration. (Sep 2007)
We bought Iraq because we broke it; responsibility to honor. (Sep 2007)
We made Saudis rich; pressure them to help win with honor. (Aug 2007)
Iraqi government disappointing, but we can’t up & pull out. (Jun 2007)
Insist that Iraq’s neighbors assist military & financially. (Jun 2007)
We needed 300,000 troops to win Iraq; must finish the job. (May 2007)
Don’t judge Iraq war while we’re in the middle of the war. (May 2007)
Iraq war has made us overlook domestic agenda. (Jan 2007)
Opposing Bush’s troop surge is a dangerous position. (Jan 2007)
Make sure we finish the job in Iraq and finish it right. (Jan 2007)
Strength is more effective deterrent to war than weakness. (Jan 2007)
We should go to war with the army that we need. (Jan 2006)
Deal with terrorism as a joint federal-state responsibility. (Feb 2001)
Include states in anti-terrorism planning. (Sep 2001)



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Post Re: Mike Huckabee
Can we discuss serious candidates for the presidency?


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Post Re: Mike Huckabee
Rich wrote:
Can we discuss serious candidates for the presidency?

You know we can. I started this because there are actually people here that like Huckabee. Also, I wanted to give you a chance to say what you actually do not like about him other than him being a former Baptist minister. Obama came out of nowhere. Reagan had a poor showing in a previous election before being elected president. As you said in another thread ...

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Hitler was pretty bold, too. And pretty wrong, just like Huckabee.

Also, it gives Christian conservatives a look at what Huckabee actually stands for since we have a tendency to want to vote for candidates based on their religious commitment. (This is a dangerous thing since in the book of Revelation it hints that the antichrist will use the Christian faith. If anyone wants to talk about this we can talk about it in the Spiritual forum. )



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Big Dave wrote:
Also, I wanted to give you a chance to say what you actually do not like about him other than him being a former Baptist minister.

This is the third time in two days that you attribute something to me that I did not say.

It is getting irritating.


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Also, I wanted to give you a chance to say what you actually do not like about him other than him being a former Baptist minister.

This is the third time in two days that you attribute something to me that I did not say.

It is getting irritating.

... and you do not like Huckabee because _______________ ?




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I've heard a few of the candidates talk about eliminating the IRS (although you really cannot eliminate it all together). What do you all think about the Fair Tax which Huckabee pushes? Wouldn't that make it that everyone, lower/middle/upper classes, pay the same tax?

Support FairTax with a tax credit for the poor. (Dec 2007)
FactCheck: FairTax would not eliminate IRS; just change role. (Nov 2007)
FairTax is 23%; Bush’s study missed prebate & other aspects. (Nov 2007)
FairTax untaxes productivity & things which we export. (Oct 2007)
FairTax eliminates all taxes on productivity & saving. (Sep 2007)



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I refuse to participate in a discussion with a person who keeps putting words in my mouth.


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I refuse to participate in a discussion with a person who keeps putting words in my mouth.

All right, Rich, you didn't say you didn't like him based on him being a Baptist minister. You said you didn't like him because he believes the earth is 6000 years old. Below are your comments about it. What is "pretty wrong" about him?

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He thinks the world is 6,000 years old.

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Why shouldn't it be part of a political discussion? If someone believes that the earth is 6000 years old, when every scientist in the world tells us it's billions of years old, why shouldn't I take that into account when I'm assessing the rationality of someone I'm going to put into the highest office in the land?

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The purpose is shock value using an exaggerative comparison to show how silly him liking him more because he believes Earth is only 6,000 years old is.

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I did not say he was a religious leader. But he is an ordained baptist minister.



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What is "pretty wrong" about him?

First of all, he is a social conservative.

The thing that can make this country great again is not whether gays are allowed to marry or serve openly in the military.

Second of all, he is far from a fiscal conservative.

This country needs a president that is going to seriously address our national debt.

1. One way to do that is to seriously reduce the size of the federal government by cutting expenses on entitlement programs. Another way is by performing an audit of military spending. For far too long, no one has seriously bothered questioning how defense spending truly works. No bid contracts to companies like Halliburton etc. There is no competition for companies acquiring military contracts. Too many programs that use up a lot of money, but do they all produce the desired results?

2. Another way is to revitalize the manufacturing and exporting of this country. Our economy cannot survive as a service-based economy while we import goods from China and cars from Japan.

3. Lastly, history has shown that cutting taxes on Americans actually increases federal tax revenue by revitalizing the economy. People argue that cutting taxes reduces government tax revenue and point to growing deficits under Bush and Reagan. They are oversimplifying and not looking at the facts. Under Bush and Reagan, deficits grew, but not because of tax cuts. Tax revenues actually increased. Unfortunately, so did entitlement and defense spending.

And here is where the problem with Huckabee lies. I am ideologically opposed to him on both fronts. I am ideologically opposed to his social conservative views and I am ideologically opposed to his fiscally liberal views.

Some may raise their eyebrows that I call Huckabee a fiscal liberal because of the things he says. But what he says now and how he governed Arkansas are two different things. And actions speak louder than words.

While governor of Arkansas, you might be surprised to find out that Huckabee increased taxes to increase funding for education. In 2001, he signed into law a bill requiring a “quality assurance fee,” which was a $5.25 fee per bed, per day for nursing homes designed to increase funding for the state Medicaid program. It was dubbed a "bed tax". He also approved a 3 cent per gallon increase in gasoline taxes and a 4 cent per gallon increase in diesel fuel taxes in 1999. All in all, Huckabee instituted 21 tax increases while governor of Arkansas. But he tells a completely different story regarding his fiscal record.

Huckabee also likes to brag about having a balanced budget every single year as governor of Arkansas. He doesn't mention that the state constitution has a balanced budget requirement (which our federal constitution should have as well).

The point is he is just another politician trying to have it both ways. He knows he needs to be come off as a fiscal conservative, especially nowadays, to win the Republican nomination. But his record points in a different direction. Actions speak louder than words, and I have an considerable sample size of the way he governed Arkansas to know that his actions back then contradict his words now.

It is the same thing I said about Obama as he was trying to run as a centrist. His past actions, his voting record, his associations all indicated that he was a far left liberal who would explode the size of government. He talked about being fiscally responsible and governing from the middle. Right now, his voting record and the type of people he surrounded himself with are trumping the words he said while on the campaign trail.

I would expect something similar from a guy like Huckabee.


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LOL. Don't hold back;)



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Ever since he went to Fox News and turned into more of a puppet of the Republican Party I've been a little turned off...but if we were going into the same election as 08, I'd still vote for him.


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Huckabee's Fiscal Record
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Under fire from conservatives, the former Arkansas governor misrepresents his tax hikes, and cuts.
Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee has been hit with criticism over his record on taxes as governor of Arkansas. The faultfinders have been members of his own party, who take issue with tax increases he enacted. In recent interviews on Fox News, Huckabee responded to some of these questions, but we found him to be misleading and incorrect on several points:

•Huckabee claimed that a speech in which he implored the state Legislature to raise taxes was in response to a state Supreme Court order to increase education funding. But he specifically said in that speech that he would address the education matter at a later date.
•He said a tax on beds filled in nursing homes was a "fee" not a tax, despite the fact that he himself has called it the "bed tax."
•Huckabee claimed a gasoline tax was only passed after 80 percent of voters approved it. Not true. The tax was enacted before a referendum vote on highway repairs.
•He frequently says he cut taxes "almost 94 times" but leaves out the 21 taxes raised during his tenure. In the end, he presided over a net tax increase.
Also, we find that former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson stretched the truth in claiming that Arkansas' spending had doubled under Huckabee. It didn't increase that much, and Huckabee left a sizable surplus.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee has drawn fire from fiscal conservatives who accuse him of pushing for tax increases. It's an issue that has garnered plenty of back and forth in the blogosphere – and, as Huckabee's campaign has gained ground in Iowa, from the Republican presidential candidates themselves. A CBS News/New York Times poll shows him winning approval from 21 percent of Republican likely caucus-goers in Iowa to front-runner Mitt Romney's 27 percent – with a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percent.

In recent interviews on Fox News, Huckabee responded to some of the sniping with inaccurate and misleading descriptions of his actions as governor. The campaign of one of his rivals, Fred Thompson, sent out an e-mail this week disputing some of Huckabee's recent remarks. We also find the Thompson camp to be wrong on one of its criticisms.

Bluffing on Tax Increases

A recent YouTube video, first posted by a conservative Arkansas blogger, shows about one minute of a May 2003 speech in which Huckabee encourages the Arkansas Legislature to pass tax increases. In a Fox News interview, Huckabee said that portion of the speech was taken out of context:

Huckabee (Fox News, Nov. 14): That was in the context of a [Arkansas] Supreme Court order that we had to fund education at a higher level. The legislators had come down to the special session and there was all kinds of talk about, well, this tax increase or that revenue possibility is out of the question, dead on arrival. … Now we were at the point, with a court order over our heads – we were going to have to improve our schools.

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Huckabee also invites listeners to “look at the whole speech, if you can stand it,” claiming that it shows a very different message from the one that clip implies. We have pretty strong stomachs here at, so we called Huckabee’s bluff. (The entire speech is available in two parts.) We found that the full speech does indeed show a different message. But it’s Huckabee who’s out of step with the facts.

It is true that in November 2002 the Arkansas Supreme Court ruled that the state's funding of its public schools violated the equal protection clause in the Arkansas Constitution. Public schools in poorer parts of the state were being underfunded. The court gave the state until Jan. 1, 2004, to correct the problem. So Huckabee is correct in claiming that he was under a court order to increase public school funding.

But that is not why Huckabee was in front of the Arkansas Legislature in May 2003. Even without the court order to increase public school funding, Arkansas was facing a budget shortfall. For the fiscal year that ended June 2002, that shortfall was $209 million, according to the state Department of Finance and Administration. The fiscal year 2003 gap was $66.7 million. Huckabee’s plea for a tax increase was aimed at covering these revenue shortfalls. But don’t take our word for it. Here’s Huckabee earlier in that same speech:

Huckabee (state Legislature, May 2003): But the issue that brings us back to this Capitol on this day cannot wait any longer. The urgency of passing budgets for various state agencies is critical, but just as critical is passing a revenue stream that will fund these budgets and provide an adequate level of service, particularly in the areas of Medicaid [sic], as well as the Department of Corrections.

The line that really got our attention, though:

Huckabee: The business of education, we’ve decided to let that wait until the fall.

We take no position on Huckabee’s call for tax increases. But we do suggest that bluffing on a busted hand is a bad move in the YouTube age.

A Tax By Any Other Name ...

On Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace asked Huckabee about several taxes for which the conservative organization Club for Growth has lambasted the governor, including one on nursing home patients. Huckabee played with semantics in his response :

Huckabee (Fox News Sunday, Nov. 18): Well, we didn't raise them on nursing home patients. That was a quality assurance fee that was supported by the industry.

Huckabee backed and signed into law a 2001 bill requiring a “quality assurance fee,” which was a $5.25 fee per bed, per day for nursing homes designed to increase funding for the state Medicaid program. Arkansas media outlets and state legislators dubbed it the “bed tax,” and in fact, Huckabee himself has called it that on at least one occasion. In discussing a controversy over the subsequent hikes in prices charged to private-insurance patients (those who personally pay their bills), he said:

Huckabee (quoted in Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, July 19) : Many of them told their patients that it was directly resulted from the bed tax. What we have shown you is that is not true; some of these increases are not the result of the bed tax.

Whether the governor calls it a tax or a fee, the money charged was to be adjusted annually so that nursing homes would pay an annual fee "equal to six percent (6%) of the aggregate annual gross receipts,” according to Act 635 of 2001. The legislation also stipulated that nursing homes could not list the fee as a separate charge on billing statements to patients.

It is true, as Huckabee said, that the industry strongly supported the measure. The president of the Arkansas Health Care Association said the group was "ecstatic" that the governor signed the bill into law, according to the Democrat-Gazette. Huckabee had vetoed a bill that would have raised the funds through a tax on tobacco products.

Huckabee also told Fox News that the bed tax "increased the quality of care by increasing the staffing requirements." The tax may have led some homes to hire more employees, but a separate piece of legislation specifically increased the staffing requirements. Despite that law, a 2003 congressional report by the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform found that many of Arkansas' nursing homes didn't meet federal staffing recommendations.

Increases with Voter Approval?

Huckabee has similarly been playing loose with the facts about gas tax increases. In 1999, the Arkansas Legislature approved – with Huckabee’s support – a 3 cent per gallon increase in gasoline taxes and a 4 cent per gallon increase in diesel fuel taxes. Huckabee has claimed in campaign appearances and on Fox News that these increases were part of a statewide referendum that passed with 80 percent voter approval. Here is an exchange with Fox News’ Sean Hannity:

Hannity (Nov. 16): You talked about cutting taxes and balancing budgets. You know, what was the net result? You did support some tax increases, but some tax cuts. Can you explain that?

Huckabee: Yes, I did. Certainly, there was an issue that involved road building and infrastructure on roads and bridges, and I did support that. We added $1 billion to our economy, 40,000 jobs, went from having the worst to the best roads. When we put that out there for the people to decide whether they wanted to affirm it, they did by an 80 percent vote, I would call that leadership.

We would call that not true. Huckabee is right that about 80 percent of Arkansas voters approved a referendum to increase funding for highway repair. But the referendum happened after the gas tax hike had already become law.

Huckabee seems to be describing the plan he wanted rather than the plan he actually supported. In Huckabee’s initial proposal, a tax increase on diesel fuel would be used to finance bonds that would, in turn, be used to repair major highways. The higher diesel fuel tax would have taken effect only if the bond initiative passed, according to the Associated Press. Huckabee’s plan, however, met resistance from Democratic lawmakers, many of whom were from rural districts that did not have major highways but that did have roads badly in need of repair. Their proposed alternative was to add a gasoline tax hike to the bond referendum.

But Huckabee actually campaigned against sending the gas tax proposal to the voters. Eventually he supported a plan under which the gas and diesel tax increases would take effect regardless of whether the bond passed.

Championing His Tax Cuts

The former Arkansas governor is fond of saying – in debates, on his Web site and in that Nov. 18 Fox News interview – that he cut taxes "almost 94 times in my state." (On his site, he rounds up to "nearly 100 times," adding that he saved "the people of Arkansas almost $380 million.")

That turns out to be far from the whole story. The Arkansas Department of Finance and Administration found that 90 tax cuts were enacted in legislative sessions from 1997 through 2005, while Huckabee was governor, and those cuts reduced tax revenues by $378 million. But Huckabee fails to mention the 21 tax increases that occurred under his watch and that raised revenues by substantially more. The total net tax increase under Huckabee's tenure was an estimated $505.1 million, says the Department of Finance and Administration's Whitney McLaughlin, adding that the figure has been adjusted for inflation.

The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette combed through a list of those 90 tax cuts, finding that a number of them pertained to very specific taxes and relatively small amounts. (We asked the Huckabee campaign for its tax tally, but we didn't get a response.) The newspaper does give Huckabee credit for spearheading "one of the largest tax cuts in Arkansas history," an income-tax cut that amounted to $90.6 million in one year alone.

He Obeys the Law, Too

In that Fox News Sunday interview, Huckabee said that he balanced the state budget “every single year of my 10.5 years as governor,” a boast that he has repeated on the campaign trail. What Huckabee forgot to mention is that the Arkansas Constitution has a balanced budget requirement. The state can run a deficit only if a majority of voters approve such a move in a statewide election. To his credit, Huckabee does sometimes acknowledge the balanced budget requirement. But to our ears, trying to claim credit for obeying your state’s constitution is a bit like bragging that you obey the law of gravity.

Hey Big Spender

Huckabee's critics, however, have done some exaggerating of their own. That press release from former Tennessee Sen. Thompson accuses Huckabee of more than doubling state spending, from $6.6 billion to $16.1 billion at the end of 2006. But those numbers aren't correct. When we talked to Mike Stormes, the administrator of the Office of Budget for the state of Arkansas, we discovered a different story. In fact, after adjusting for inflation, we found that spending in fiscal year 1998 (the first budget for which Huckabee was responsible) was actually $10.4 billion, while spending at the end of 2006 was $15.6 billion. That’s a big increase, but it’s a far cry from doubling state spending.

It’s worth noting, too, that Huckabee, despite facing a $200 million shortfall in 2002, ended his term with a surplus of $844.5 million. A billion dollar turnaround is, we think, a noteworthy accomplishment.

– by Joe Miller and Lori Robertson

Sources ... ecord.html

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Governor Huckabee’s rocket launch into the top tier of Republican candidates makes me wonder if anybody is paying attention. His record as a big government taxer is pretty clear; as governor of Arkansas he increased taxes and increased Arkansas’ debt by over a billion dollars. The state’s economy under Huckabee was no better when he left after ten years than when he began, and The Club for Growth reviews his performance as a “mixed bag” at best.

Clearly he is not a conservative, but his support of the “Fair Tax” is the thing that really sets up red flags. The old adage, “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullcrap”, has never erred in appraisal of salesmen or politicians, and Mike Huckabee is full of it.

The Fair Tax is essentially an increase in the sales tax accompanied by eliminating all income taxes to finance government operations, suggesting somehow that this form of tax collection will fairly redistribute the tax burden. When politicians say “fair” it means “get the rich guy”, and “rich guy” is anyone who makes a little more than minimum wage.

Huckabee’s suggestion that the fair tax is a preferable system is typical of bureaucratic thinking and it is the kind of thinking you would never see from a fiscally responsible businessman.

How much is it going to cost to completely alter the manner in which we collect taxes?

How are those costs going to manifest themselves in the minutia of bureaucratic incompetence?

Why is this form of taxation “Fair” while our current system is not?

What makes us think “Rich Guys” are not going to change their behavior when faced with a 30% 23% sales tax on that new yacht, and choose to make such purchases out of the country or refrain from such purchases all together? Perhaps yacht guy needs a new 2,000 square foot addition to his house, and building contractor guy does it for free in exchange for that million dollar yacht for a hundred grand. Even if this scenario isn’t feasible, you get the idea.

Human aversion to taxation is like water, it will always find a preferable path when blocked, and no bureaucrat is any match for a man who has earned his own money.

The unanticipated consequences of such a broad and sweeping policy shift cannot be anticipated, and on top of that, it’s never going to happen. Huckabee’s support of such a policy change is either naïve, indicating his lack of readiness for the job, or is a disingenuous political maneuver designed to capture dispirited voters, indicating his lack of readiness for the job.

There is nothing wrong with the way we collect income tax, it is just that the government takes way too much and deliberately penalizes success encouraging our most effective producers to waste loads of time and money in tax avoidance strategies instead of building their businesses providing goods, services, and jobs.

Steve Forbes wrote a great book, The Flat Tax Revolution, where he demonstrated how a fair and equitable tax system has spurred dozens of economies (previously imprisoned behind the iron curtain) which are now free after the Soviet Union’s disintegration.

Mike Huckabee ought to read it.

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Infrastructure investment causes long-term economic stimulus. (Jan 2008)

From above in Dave's post. This sounds alot like our Presidents reasoning on the so called stimulus bill.

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Infrastructure investment causes long-term economic stimulus. (Jan 2008)

From above in Dave's post. This sounds alot like our Presidents reasoning on the so called stimulus bill.

About $250 billion of the stimulus was designed to do that. But most of that money is still in the que and very few of these "shovel ready" projects have started.

It is the only portion of the stimulus that I supported.


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It is hard for me to keep up but I thought that some of that money(infrastructure) had been spent on non-existent jobs in non-existent zip codes?

If the work needs to be done great, but wouldnt that work have been done anyway? So why put it in a stimulus package? If the work was shovel ready it seems that the financing would have been considered anyway.

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