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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:46 pm 
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Whoa...

There's that surprise move.

Good bye Kevin Burnett? Or Dansby? Has to be one....

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I am not familiar with this guy, would he be a big upgrade? What's his age?

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AFCMiamiEast wrote:
I am not familiar with this guy, would he be a big upgrade? What's his age?


From what I understand, the Ravens were trying hard to keep him as Ray Lewis' replacement.

Very surprising move.

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Rich wrote:
AFCMiamiEast wrote:
I am not familiar with this guy, would he be a big upgrade? What's his age?


From what I understand, the Ravens were trying hard to keep him as Ray Lewis' replacement.

Very surprising move.


It's the reason they traded Boldin....

Media is in shock right now at this move.

Dansby is on the way out.


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Phins Rock wrote:
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I am not familiar with this guy, would he be a big upgrade? What's his age?


From what I understand, the Ravens were trying hard to keep him as Ray Lewis' replacement.

Very surprising move.


It's the reason they traded Boldin....

Media is in shock right now at this move.

Dansby is on the way out.


Where's your source? I don't see it on either PFT or Rotoworld.. The latter usually has the first news on most updates

I agree this would be strange but kind of awesome too


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92 tackles, 4.5 sacks, 2 forced fumbles for the Ravens last season. 6'1 240 lbs, runs a 4.6 40.

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Love this move.

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NFL Network confirms.

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Phins Rock wrote:
Dansby is on the way out.


More likely Burnett based on the cap savings versus dead cap.

Cutting Dansby would open up $3.9 mil. Cutting Burnett would open up $3.2 mil. But the dead cap for Dansby would be $4.6 mil, Burnett would be $2.5 mil.

I think Burnett will be gone.

This guy can play either position.

Heck... it might be Koa Misi.

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Rich wrote:
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Dansby is on the way out.


More likely Burnett based on the cap savings versus dead cap.

Cutting Dansby would open up $3.9 mil. Cutting Burnett would open up $3.2 mil. But the dead cap for Dansby would be $4.6 mil, Burnett would be $2.5 mil.

I think Burnett will be gone.

This guy can play either position.

Heck... it might be Koa Misi.


Or they could keep all 3 for a year, and rid of Dansby next year.

Burnett is coming off a GOOD season. Can't see him being cut. But that's speculation on my part.


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Phins Rock wrote:
It's the reason they traded Boldin....

Media is in shock right now at this move.

Dansby is on the way out.


Think about it ...

Long, gone.
Bush, gone.

Dansby was a part of that player council whom anyone with eyes could've seen Philbin was just "tolerating". Alas, as hard-nosed and tough of a player Los has been, he hasn't produced the big plays (turnovers/sacks).

Wonder if he gets cut or traded.

I'm hoping this signing is to replace Misi and we go another year before moving somebody.

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https://twitter.com/RavensInsider/statu ... 5845675009

"This could have negative effect on Karlos Dansby, I'm told. Fluid situation"


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espn is saying the same on NFL32, though they mentioned the contract has not been officially signed as of yet.


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Phins Rock wrote:
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Dansby is on the way out.


More likely Burnett based on the cap savings versus dead cap.

Cutting Dansby would open up $3.9 mil. Cutting Burnett would open up $3.2 mil. But the dead cap for Dansby would be $4.6 mil, Burnett would be $2.5 mil.

I think Burnett will be gone.

This guy can play either position.

Heck... it might be Koa Misi.


Or they could keep all 3 for a year, and rid of Dansby next year.

Burnett is coming off a GOOD season. Can't see him being cut. But that's speculation on my part.


Hard to call. Misi had 3.5 sacks, Burnet had 109 tackles and 2.5 sacks, Dansby had 134 tackles and 1 sack...

They all produced.

But Ellerbe is faster and can cover tight ends and backs... tough to call right now.

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Deal is reported at 5 years, $35 million. Someone is definitely gone.

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https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/stat ... 0282393600

Holy....

5 years 35 million. Jesus.....


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Phins Rock wrote:
https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/311598690282393600

Holy....

5 years 35 million. Jesus.....


I'm surprised they did it only because that wasn't really an area of weakness.
But that was the expected range for him.


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Phins Rock wrote:
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Holy....

5 years 35 million. Jesus.....


Dansby got 5 years $43 million.

The more I think about it, the more I think he is a goner. He certainly stepped out of line a couple of times when he didn't agree with a Philbin decision.

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Holy....

5 years 35 million. Jesus.....


Man my nightmare may come true after all this crap, we better not end up in cap hell because you can kiss contention good bye and say hello to mediocrity and below for the next decade. Someone please tell me this Ellerbee guy is worth the darn cap. I'm really concerned right now lol. There is now way I am overhyping myself until I see game proof.

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Rich wrote:
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Holy....

5 years 35 million. Jesus.....


Dansby got 5 years $43 million.

The more I think about it, the more I think he is a goner. He certainly stepped out of line a couple of times when he didn't agree with a Philbin decision.


Yup. Called out the organization twice this year. They remember it.

I just don't know that Ellerbe has the speed to play MLB in a 43. We'll see though.


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Phins Rock wrote:
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Holy....

5 years 35 million. Jesus.....


Dansby got 5 years $43 million.

The more I think about it, the more I think he is a goner. He certainly stepped out of line a couple of times when he didn't agree with a Philbin decision.


Yup. Called out the organization twice this year. They remember it.

I just don't know that Ellerbe has the speed to play MLB in a 43. We'll see though.


He ran a 4.6 40.

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Karlos has been solid, but he has not been the playmaker the Dolphins thought he would be. Philbin is not the guy to want to have players speaking out in the media.

As far as Ellerbe having the speed to play the position, I think he will be fine. The Ravens wanted him badly.

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At 236 pounds. Just looking at the guy, is he anywhere close to 236 now?

I don't know. I haven't seen a 4.6 guy on the field....I think he's a much better fit in a 34.

Like I said, we'll see. I can't say I've studied the guy.

You don't give 35 million to a guy who can't play in your scheme though....So we'll see.


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As far as Ellerbe having the speed to play the position, I think he will be fine. The Ravens wanted him badly.


We gotta do something if we're gonna cover Gronk & Hernandez twice a year.

This is a nice surprise for us. I hope we could trade Dansby, & not merely cut him.

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This from NFLDraftIndiser (NFLDraftBites)

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Next Offseason #Dolphins can cut LB Karlos Dansby w/ 9.25 M of Cap Savings & 2.325 M of Dead Money. Ellerbe signing indicates that direction

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This is a nice surprise for us. I hope we could trade Dansby, & not merely cut him.


I would expect Ireland starts contacting the Ravens, they need a LB LOL...

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This is a nice surprise for us. I hope we could trade Dansby, & not merely cut him.


I would expect Ireland starts contacting the Ravens, they need a LB LOL...


HA! Nice.

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AFCMiamiEast wrote:
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https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/311598690282393600

Holy....

5 years 35 million. Jesus.....


Man my nightmare may come true after all this crap, we better not end up in cap hell because you can kiss contention good bye and say hello to mediocrity and below for the next decade. Someone please tell me this Ellerbee guy is worth the darn cap. I'm really concerned right now lol. There is now way I am overhyping myself until I see game proof.


Cap hell is for a year or two. Not a decade.

Heck, how bad is the cap hell the Redskins are in right now?


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This from NFLDraftIndiser (NFLDraftBites)

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Next Offseason #Dolphins can cut LB Karlos Dansby w/ 9.25 M of Cap Savings & 2.325 M of Dead Money. Ellerbe signing indicates that direction


Or they can just cut or trade him now and save $3.9 mil. Also, when are they going to do something about Dimitri Patterson's $4.6 million cap number?

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https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/311598690282393600

Holy....

5 years 35 million. Jesus.....


Man my nightmare may come true after all this crap, we better not end up in cap hell because you can kiss contention good bye and say hello to mediocrity and below for the next decade. Someone please tell me this Ellerbee guy is worth the darn cap. I'm really concerned right now lol. There is now way I am overhyping myself until I see game proof.


Cap hell is for a year or two. Not a decade.

Heck, how bad is the cap hell the Redskins are in right now?


There are contracts coming off the books in the next year or two that will help offset these new escalating contracts. Karlos Dansby, Paul Soliai just to name a couple.

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This is oddly similar of when Miami got the best ILB and WR on the market 3 years ago.

Three years later, they're both done (likely).

Tame your excitement people.


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I dont care about the cap or what happens in 3 or 5 years... I have been waiting for 3 or 5 years to come for a long time...

Sign the players who give us the best chance to win... Balto fans may be mad now that good players are gane, but they sure didnt seem to care about the impending cap nightmare back in Feb......

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Remember guys, we can ROLL OVER remaining cap space to next season. That may be a reason why contracts take up so little cap space in year one.

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Tame your excitement people.

Yeah right! Been waiting for these good moves by Ireland. I am darn excited about this and if Miami happens to also land Cook or Keller at tight end, this will really potentially be a great free agency for the fins.

They need missing links to make this team better and that is what Ireland is doing.


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Tame your excitement people.

Yeah right! Been waiting for these good moves by Ireland. I am darn excited about this and if Miami happens to also land Cook or Keller at tight end, this will really potentially be a great free agency for the fins.

They need missing links to make this team better and that is what Ireland is doing.

As a Phins fan, how can you not get excited? Unless maybe you are a closet Pats fan...


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This is oddly similar of when Miami got the best ILB and WR on the market 3 years ago.

Three years later, they're both done (likely).



I liked the Dansby back then, but I was VERY skeptical about B. Marsh and I never thought of him as a speedster. I'm excited and so are others, who cares? Talk to me in 2 years then...lol


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I apologize for speaking too soon.

Ellerbe has terrific range. Goes sideline to sideline very well. Also an excellent blitzer.

I'm concerned about his injury history though. Image


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Rock Sexton wrote:
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It's the reason they traded Boldin....

Media is in shock right now at this move.

Dansby is on the way out.


Think about it ...

Long, gone.
Bush, gone.

Dansby was a part of that player council whom anyone with eyes could've seen Philbin was just "tolerating". Alas, as hard-nosed and tough of a player Los has been, he hasn't produced the big plays (turnovers/sacks).

Wonder if he gets cut or traded.

I'm hoping this signing is to replace Misi and we go another year before moving somebody.


the writing was on the wall when Dansby bad mouthed the front office.
Would have liked to keep Burnett though.


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Phins Rock wrote:
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https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/311598690282393600

Holy....

5 years 35 million. Jesus.....


Dansby got 5 years $43 million.

The more I think about it, the more I think he is a goner. He certainly stepped out of line a couple of times when he didn't agree with a Philbin decision.


Yup. Called out the organization twice this year. They remember it.

I just don't know that Ellerbe has the speed to play MLB in a 43. We'll see though.


always risky to fix something that ain't broken


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I think we will look back in a couple of years & realize this was our best signing in free agency this year.

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