Yup. It would make no sense to invest so highly in "playmakers" in free agency, only to then use your top asset this Off Season on a lineman.

I tend to think something gets done with Winston, but I'm 51/49 on that.

You can never have enough playmakers. I wouldn't mind an OL, but to trade up is crazy. A "playmaking" DE would be nice as well. It would upgrade the secondary and disrupt the QB.

I have to agree with the playmaker approach.

Listen, offensive linemen used to be a higher priority when the league was a run first league, because you needed guys that could push the pile. Also, run first teams deployed vertical passing games with 7 step drops, so in those cases it was critical to have an elite left tackle giving the quarterback time to drop back 7 steps and gun the ball downfield.

In today's game, teams are deploying more quick passing, 3 step drops, moving pockets, shotgun, rollouts, pistol etc, so while offensive linemen are still important, it is more important to have players that will create yards after the catch. That's where players like Mike Wallace, Dustin Keller, and yes... Tavon Austin come in. Especially Tavon Austin, who will be shifty, quick and have a 5th gear.

I'm onboard with Tavon Austin or the tight end from Notre Dame.

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I agree with the analysts saying the recent QB signings/deals points toward an OL run in the first round. If Arizona lands Palmer I'd bet on them grabbing Johnson.

Despite my attempt to stir up some trade talk controversey in my mock I think the smart money is on Austin or Eifert with OL being drafted in the 2nd and 3rd round.

Its quite possible that Joeckel, Fisher, Johnson, Warmack and Cooper are all gone by the 11th pick, especially with Buffalo needing to replace Levitre and San Diego needing to replace Vasquez.

ABSOLUTELY! Jimmy Johnson never,never drafted lineman early.....And he had the best

Lineman are coached up...Pouncy was a great pick. But at 12 this year with this team,

NO

Yes! I agree.

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I know what you mean cspoon. A lot of folks would not draft a guy on this board because they did not play for a BCS school. Plenty of kids that go to smaller school are just as talented, but had academic issues in a lot of cases.

Talented scouts can find talent.

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We already added playmakers in Mike Wallace and Dustin Keller. But they won't be able to do squat if Tannehill is on his butt the entire day. You can blab all day long about the need for playmakers, but in my opinion games are decided in the trenches. If you don't have a good offensive line, you're run game will stink and you're quarterback will be running for his life all game long. If you don't have a good defensive front, the runningbacks will chew you up and the quarterback will pick you apart. It's that simple.
We have a glaring hole at RT. If we don't sign Eric Winston, we had better draft someone in either the 1st or 2nd round, because otherwise Tannehill won't be able to get the ball to his playmakers.

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Long has had injury problems and isn't even on the Dolphins now.

If using the #1 overall pick on an OL wasn't bad enough, now we should trade several picks to move up and take one?

No thanks.

OT is a big need, but you can find excellent OL players later in the draft.

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To quote swerve... "This"

I agree that the LT position is a huge hole in Miami's roster right now. I think another option is to trade a 2nd round pick to KC and give Branden Albert a decent 4 year contract. Then you have addressed a real need and still have your first round pick to grab someone else. I don't think KC will sit on Albert for more than a 2nd round pick as they don't want to pay him the $9.828 million franchise tender he received this offseason.

If KC wants a 2nd so bad we should give them a 2nd and 1st for the number 1.

but in my opinion games are decided in the trenches.

I respect your opinion. My opinion is that games are won by QBs.

I'm starting to think that Ireland's strategy is to see if he can fix the OT problem in the draft, and failing that, have Winston's # on speed dial after it's over.

TEAMS win games.

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If a team has 5 OLman working as a unit, then none of them have to be top 5 picks. Its proven. If a team has five top 5 OLman not working as a unit, then it will not matter that they were top 5 picks.

Miami has invested greatly in the OL & they still struggle.

Working as a unit is what wins the battle, not the skill level. Games can be won in the trenches as the Giants proved with their DL dominance in the SB, but more games are won by the QB.

Look no further than the Patriots for an example of this. Their line last year was patchwork for most of the season, yet they were one of the better units in the league in both pass protection and run blocking.

Yep, they have a QB that reads defenses and gets rid of the ball fast. No running around, no gimmicks, no running game, no defense yet they make it to the AFC chammionship year after year. It's the QB folks. Draft an OL or 3, sure, but trading up is silly.

Ranked 9th in pass blocking and 2nd in run blocking according to PFF.

However, they did have a tackle taken #17 overall in 2011, a tackle selected 58th overall in 2009 and a guard selected #32 overall in 2005 as the top 3 players taking the most snaps on their offensive line.

I wouldn't call that patchwork. They've invested high picks on three of their top offensive linemen.

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A guard missing 6 games and a back up getting snaps at both tackle positions as part of a rotation sounds like what an offensive line would typically go through in a season. Guys will miss games and the back ups have to step up. This happens everywhere.

Their starting center was an undrafted free agent.... from 2008, and a player they had been developing for a while. He beat out Dan Koppen for the job.

Nate Solder led the team in offensive snaps. Ryan Wendell (previously mentioned starting center) was second. Vollmer was fourth. For some context, Brady was third in offensive snaps. So their book-ends at tackle played plenty of snaps as well as their starting center.

Say what you want about Wendell, but he beat out a proven player and played at a high level. Rated 4th overall at center by PFF.

Dan Connolly and Logan Mankins were 7th and 8th respectively.

So one starter missed significant time due to injury. Woe is me...

This is not patchwork. This is typical.

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The OL will have a much easier time pass blocking if the QB fires the ball quickly and completes passes. They will have an easier time run blocking if they respect the potency of that passing game and are not able to stack the line. If Tannehill can use his new targets and avoid blitzes, I think we will be fine without Long. It's sad that for a while, the best player on the Dolphins was a LT.

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I just feel the term "Elite" tackle is overblown. We seem to have gotten to a point that is the tackle is not considered "Elite" then we believe they are not very good. Teams need a talented tackle, but not what one would call "Elite" in order to win.

I have no issue with drafted OLman in Rd. 1, but if you are at the top of the 1st Rd & need play makers, then get the guy that scores the points first.

exactly Rich. The best tackles, just the same as QB's, are still taken in the 1st round.
Joe Thomas, Ryan Clady are the best in the league.

The Patriots is a good example (Solder sucks by the way).

I"ll give you another..The Steelers line that just went to a Superbowl was not good...Pouncey was a rookie and missed the big games with injury.

Great qb. Though.

How many superbowls have they been to?

It'd be different if we already had 1 really good offensive tackle, but we don't. We don't know what will happen with Jonathan Martin, As of right now he's not very good, and then we lost Jake Long. Fact is this team's BIGGEST weakness is offensive tackle.

They've spent money everywhere but there.
That spells doom for tannehill in his 2nd season.

We lost Jake Long who was also not very good.....We can draft one after the 1st round

Ranked 17th in the NFL at the tackle position (includes left and right tackles) according to PFF.

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Joe Staley was rated the best tackle in the NFL by PFF. He just played in a Superbowl. He was the 28th overall pick in the 2007 draft.

Also, Michael Oher of the Ravens was a 1st round pick.

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well Ryan Clady plays for the team that currently looks like it has the best shot at winning the Super Bowl this year.
It's not Joe Thomas' fault that he's been protecting the blindside of bad quarterbacks.
We think we already have a very good QB, so now we just need to get him protection.
It's a combination of players that win a Super Bowl. Not just the quarterback, Not just Tavon Austin. LOL

Let's just draft nothing but QB's and WR's this year. Because according to some of you that's all it takes to win a Super Bowl these days.

There is a term known as priority.

There is a reason that playmakers are the faces of organizations instead of linemen. They are marketable because they are difference makers.

It's true you can't score without a line, but lets not put brand new tires on a pinto, lets invest in something with an engine, then buy tires.

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Just using for what my point has been.

For me, its not using a 1st Rd. pick on a LT, but using one to high. Both were drafted at the back end of Rd. 1, not in the top 10. Which goes with what I have been saying. Neither were considered "Elite" prospects coming out of college or they would not have been at the back end of Rd. 1, but both have been very successful playing the position.

Kickers make game winning FGs in playoff games, but I can't remember a team trading up to draft one in the first round.

You need kickers. You need linemen. But game breakers are the priority.

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No one is saying it's just Tavon Austin, but this kid brings an explosion that no one else does. If that type of player is available you snag them and fill your other needs later. We have a ton of picks... offensive line will be addressed, but there is absolutely no need to do it in the first round.

Yes, people on these forums have said all you need is QBs and WRs.

In fact, some people have proposed cutting all of the offensive linemen on the team since we don't need them anymore.

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In fact, some people have proposed cutting all of the offensive linemen on the team since we don't need them anymore.

Dang, who said that? I don't remember reading that post.

There are 3 teams above us looking to take Offensive linemen. Why is it that it is such an issue with Dolphins fans to take quality players at positions of need?

We have the best WR corp we have had in a long time. We have a starting QB.
We don't have the ability to keep him upright as of now.
Linemen don't score touchdowns, but they allow other people to do so.

It would be a different story if we were reaching for a tackle at the top of round 1 but we wouldn't be since the top 3 left tackles are all graded out as top 10 overall in this particular draft.
The top 10 is pretty much offensive and defensive line players. That's the cream of the crap of the 2013 draft.
There are no Larry Fitzgerald's sitting there for us this year.