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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:34 pm 
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By James Walker | ESPN.com
After going back and studying the game tape, here is how Tannehill graded on all his throws:

First series

On his first passing play, center Mike Pouncey and right guard Josh Samuda have a miscommunication that allows Jacksonville defensive tackle Sen'Derrick Marks to get in for a quick sack. (Even)
On third down and 11, Tannehill gets a clean pocket and has two short options open with receiver Brian Hartline over the middle and running back Lamar Miller flaring out. But instead of taken what’s given, Tannehill continues to search downfield for the first down until the pocket collapses. He tries to scramble at the end of the play but is thrown to the ground. (-1 point)

Second series ...

Conclusion: Tannehill did not have a great performance and is still showing signs of his inexperience. This game showed he can make some throws and has the potential that makes a lot of people excited about him. The pass protection broke down at times and Tannehill held the ball too long on some plays. But the good news is Miami has three more preseason games. Tannehill just needs to put it together and be more consistent with his accuracy.


http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/ ... -tannehill


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:03 pm 
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Conclusion: Tannehill did not have a great performance and is still showing signs of his inexperience. This game showed he can make some throws and has the potential that makes a lot of people excited about him. The pass protection broke down at times and Tannehill held the ball too long on some plays. But the good news is Miami has three more preseason games. Tannehill just needs to put it together and be more consistent with his accuracy.


In other words, great QBs hide the OL and RBs. Come on RT, you have potential!! Do it!


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Makchell wrote:
In other words, great QBs hide the OL and RBs


How you interpreted that from what you quoted is baffling to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:34 pm 
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How you interpreted that from what you quoted is baffling to me.


Sorry, its an internet site. The plays were there to be made but RT didn't "see" Miller or Hartline. Tannehill gets a clean pocket and has two short options open with receiver Brian Hartline over the middle and running back Lamar Miller flaring out

The pass protection broke down at times and Tannehill held the ball too long on some plays.

If he would have gotten rid of the ball, we would have 1st downs. Drink up the koolaid on RT, but he has to step up.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:35 pm 
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It was definitely hard to watch those first 3 series. Nothing was clicking, RT looked really uncomfortable.

Even in the 4th drive he still looked antsy, but luckily still managed to put together a beautiful scoring drive.


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Makchell wrote:
If he would have gotten rid of the ball, we would have 1st downs.


You conveniently left this part out:

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But instead of taken what’s given, Tannehill continues to search downfield for the first down until the pocket collapses


If he had made the dump off throw short of the first down, you'd be the first one complaining about why he didn't take a shot on 3rd down to try to get the first down...

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IamPZ wrote:
It was definitely hard to watch those first 3 series. Nothing was clicking, RT looked really uncomfortable.

Even in the 4th drive he still looked antsy, but luckily still managed to put together a beautiful scoring drive.


Yeah well when your center and guard can't block scrubs, it is difficult to feel comfortable in the pocket.

But somehow, Tannehill is supposed to cover up for Josh Samuda and Mike Pouncey whiffing on blocks.

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you'd be the first one complaining about why he didn't take a shot on 3rd down to try to get the first down...

No I wouldn't. Thanks for the reply.


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Makchell wrote:
No I wouldn't. Thanks for the reply.


Yeah on 3rd and 11 if he threw a 3 yard dump off the Miller short of the first, you wouldn't be asking why he didn't go downfield to someone else?

Sure.... stick to your other fish stories. At least those are legit.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:28 am 
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Yeah on 3rd and 11 if he threw a 3 yard dump off the Miller short of the first, you wouldn't be asking why he didn't go downfield to someone else?


I hope you are right and he makes plays downfield.


Sure.... stick to your other fish stories. At least those are legit.

Was that necessary?


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The excuses are already starting for Tannehill. It's Henne's 2010 season all over again.

And who was the person who said that this team didn't draft Tannehill to be a "world beater", after an off-season in which he's been called the next coming of Dan Marino?

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The excuses are already starting for Tannehill. It's Henne's 2010 season all over again.

And who was the person who said that this team didn't draft Tannehill to be a "world beater", after an off-season in which he's been called the next coming of Dan Marino?



IMO, I don't know what we have in RT. I keep hearing words like potential, the future. I don't hear that of Luck, Wilson, RG3. The jury is still out on R, for sure. You need an elite QB to win in the NFL, not an elite OL.


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DevilInPgh wrote:
The excuses are already starting for Tannehill. It's Henne's 2010 season all over again.

And who was the person who said that this team didn't draft Tannehill to be a "world beater", after an off-season in which he's been called the next coming of Dan Marino?


Wow, two comments that couldn't be further from the truth.


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DevilInPgh wrote:
The excuses are already starting for Tannehill. It's Henne's 2010 season all over again.

And who was the person who said that this team didn't draft Tannehill to be a "world beater", after an off-season in which he's been called the next coming of Dan Marino?


Like you've said a million times, we should have just waited for Johnny Manziel...

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Rich wrote:
DevilInPgh wrote:
The excuses are already starting for Tannehill. It's Henne's 2010 season all over again.

And who was the person who said that this team didn't draft Tannehill to be a "world beater", after an off-season in which he's been called the next coming of Dan Marino?


Like you've said a million times, we should have just waited for Johnny Manziel...


He'll give a lot of autographs at training camp


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Johnny Manziel has become suck a waste, wow....


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:08 pm 
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Makchell wrote:
IMO, I don't know what we have in RT. I keep hearing words like potential, the future. I don't hear that of Luck, Wilson, RG3. The jury is still out on R, for sure. You need an elite QB to win in the NFL, not an elite OL.


I dont hear all sorts of questions surrounding the offensive lines in Seattle or Washington either...

They are elite units, and the young QB's are flourishing...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:29 pm 
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Makchell wrote:
IMO, I don't know what we have in RT. I keep hearing words like potential, the future. I don't hear that of Luck, Wilson, RG3. The jury is still out on R, for sure. You need an elite QB to win in the NFL, not an elite OL.


There weren't "questions" about Cam Newton going into his 2nd year. He had the rookie record for passing yards, a 60% completion and an 85 rating his rookie year.

Nowhere to go but up, right?

Completion percentage down, touchdowns down, yards down, interceptions down but fumbles up...

Just because these guys had good rookie seasons (and statistically, Luck was near the bottom of the league in rating and TD:INT ratio, which you always harp on) doesn't mean they are going to get better or there aren't questions about them.

How will RGIII hold up physically with his style of play and once teams start containing and blitzing him more?

Has Luck already reached his ceiling? He was considered the most "finished/polished" product coming out of college.

Can Russell Wilson, at 5'11 in high heels, continue to find success?

And how come everyone who wants to doubt Tannehill conveniently only mention those three guys and leave Brandon Weeden out? Weeden was a 1st round pick and Wilson wasn't. Why isn't Weeden in the conversation as well?

I remember some of the same people who doubt Tannehill being high on Weeden, but what has a 2nd year player who will probably be retiring by his 5th season shown?

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Rich wrote:
There weren't "questions" about Cam Newton going into his 2nd year. He had the rookie record for passing yards, a 60% completion and an 85 rating his rookie year.

Nowhere to go but up, right?

Completion percentage down, touchdowns down, yards down, interceptions down but fumbles up...

Just because these guys had good rookie seasons (and statistically, Luck was near the bottom of the league in rating and TD:INT ratio, which you always harp on) doesn't mean they are going to get better or there aren't questions about them.

How will RGIII hold up physically with his style of play and once teams start containing and blitzing him more?

Has Luck already reached his ceiling? He was considered the most "finished/polished" product coming out of college.

Can Russell Wilson, at 5'11 in high heels, continue to find success?

And how come everyone who wants to doubt Tannehill conveniently only mention those three guys and leave Brandon Weeden out? Weeden was a 1st round pick and Wilson wasn't. Why isn't Weeden in the conversation as well?

I remember some of the same people who doubt Tannehill being high on Weeden, but what has a 2nd year player who will probably be retiring by his 5th season shown?


So basically a whole lot of questions about everybody that nobody can answer right?

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Put the team on his shoulders and win a few games, get them into the playoffs and this is RT's team. Anything short of that, the knives will come out.


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Rich wrote:
There weren't "questions" about Cam Newton going into his 2nd year. He had the rookie record for passing yards, a 60% completion and an 85 rating his rookie year.

Nowhere to go but up, right?

Completion percentage down, touchdowns down, yards down, interceptions down but fumbles up...

Just because these guys had good rookie seasons (and statistically, Luck was near the bottom of the league in rating and TD:INT ratio, which you always harp on) doesn't mean they are going to get better or there aren't questions about them.

How will RGIII hold up physically with his style of play and once teams start containing and blitzing him more?

Has Luck already reached his ceiling? He was considered the most "finished/polished" product coming out of college.

Can Russell Wilson, at 5'11 in high heels, continue to find success?

And how come everyone who wants to doubt Tannehill conveniently only mention those three guys and leave Brandon Weeden out? Weeden was a 1st round pick and Wilson wasn't. Why isn't Weeden in the conversation as well?

I remember some of the same people who doubt Tannehill being high on Weeden, but what has a 2nd year player who will probably be retiring by his 5th season shown?


Well first of all R. Wilson I know for a fact does not like the "heels" ...


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So basically a whole lot of questions about everybody that nobody can answer right?

Pretty much.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:10 am 
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Makchell wrote:
So basically a whole lot of questions about everybody that nobody can answer right?

Pretty much.


Can't the same be said regarding the question you're asking about Tannehill?

One season of success defines other 2nd year QBs?


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