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 Post subject: Don Jones hit
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:19 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:49 pm 
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I want to see Don Jones in a game.


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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:13 pm 
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Huge, huge play.......

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:18 pm 
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Just as big was Denny jumping on the ball late and coming out of the scrum with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:00 am 
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seems like all the little things are clicking with this team. Jones is a special teams maniac makin huge plays and Sturgis is another huge secret weapon. So many ways we can beat you.


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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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He didn't have to go low and take the guys knee out.

Somebody email this clip to Swearinger.

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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He didn't have to go low and take the guys knee out.

Somebody email this clip to Swearinger.


Yep, but he was leading with the helmet and Harry Douglas seemed to lay prone on the ground for a little while after the hit.

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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Rich wrote:
rodneyfaile wrote:
He didn't have to go low and take the guys knee out.

Somebody email this clip to Swearinger.


Yep, but he was leading with the helmet and Harry Douglas seemed to lay prone on the ground for a little while after the hit.


Douglas was out cold...you can't see it in this clip but his light went out... hands were twitching after the play.


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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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Rich wrote:
rodneyfaile wrote:
He didn't have to go low and take the guys knee out.

Somebody email this clip to Swearinger.


Yep, but he was leading with the helmet and Harry Douglas seemed to lay prone on the ground for a little while after the hit.


huh? Was Jones wearing a helmet on his right shoulder?


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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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Rich wrote:
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He didn't have to go low and take the guys knee out.

Somebody email this clip to Swearinger.


Yep, but he was leading with the helmet and Harry Douglas seemed to lay prone on the ground for a little while after the hit.


huh? Was Jones wearing a helmet on his right shoulder?


Look again, the helmets hit first.

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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what the egnew catch wasn't big enough for a topic?


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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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Rich wrote:
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He didn't have to go low and take the guys knee out.

Somebody email this clip to Swearinger.


Yep, but he was leading with the helmet and Harry Douglas seemed to lay prone on the ground for a little while after the hit.


That looks like all shoulder to me. Perhaps he sustained injury because of how hard his head hit the ground?

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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rodneyfaile wrote:
Rich wrote:
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He didn't have to go low and take the guys knee out.

Somebody email this clip to Swearinger.


Yep, but he was leading with the helmet and Harry Douglas seemed to lay prone on the ground for a little while after the hit.


That looks like all shoulder to me. Perhaps he sustained injury because of how hard his head hit the ground?


Look at it from the other angle, the helmet hits first and then follows through with the shoulder.

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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Just as big was Denny jumping on the ball late and coming out of the scrum with it.


Yeah he did. Atl looked as tho they had it going into the pile, John came out with it.. I am guessing he wasnt nice and asking for it politely. lmao

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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I don't think so. Perhaps the helmets touch at some point, but he didn't hit him in the helmet with his own helmet. He hit him with his shoulder. Great tackle.

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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I don't think so. Perhaps the helmets touch at some point, but he didn't hit him in the helmet with his own helmet. He hit him with his shoulder. Great tackle.


He led with the helmet, the helmet went in before the shoulder and it was above the neck. There is no other possible way for a human being to physically do this. It wasn't a direct hit, which is great, but he led with the helmet above the shoulders.

That's the type of play the NFL is trying to avoid.

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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This angle shows it a little better. Its the only thing he could do unless he just lets him go by..
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How can a guy lower his shoulder without lowering his head at the same time?

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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How can a guy lower his shoulder without lowering his head at the same time?


You can see on that angle that the helmets hit first, even if not a direct hit.

That's the problem with the helmet to helmet contact rules in the NFL... you have to lead with your head so your shoulder can follow.

What the NFL wants players to do is hit below the next and above the knees.

And to be honest, that is exactly what form tackling is. When someone says that it was a great tackle by Don Jones, they don't know anything about tackling. That wasn't a great tackle, it was actually poor form.

It was a great hit though and a big time play, but if you go against a strong running back like that... or a tight end... you're just going to bounce off.

Thankfully, it was Harry Douglas.

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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You know what, I'm fine with this play, and not because this is a Dolphin player. Jones was not trying to LEAD with his helmet and was just trying to make the tackle.

If this was like the hit from Brandon Merriweather in the Washington-Green Bay game, that would be different. Merriweather blatantly earholed the Lacy kid, dropped his head right into Lacy helmet.

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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It was the side of the facemask into the side of the face mask and he leaned/hit with his shoulder and then wrapped up.

Not sure how he could have done it anymore cleanly.


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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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It was the side of the facemask into the side of the face mask and he leaned/hit with his shoulder and then wrapped up.

Not sure how he could have done it anymore cleanly.


By not going high...

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 Post subject: Re: Don Jones hit
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Rich wrote:
rodneyfaile wrote:
I don't think so. Perhaps the helmets touch at some point, but he didn't hit him in the helmet with his own helmet. He hit him with his shoulder. Great tackle.


He led with the helmet, the helmet went in before the shoulder and it was above the neck. There is no other possible way for a human being to physically do this. It wasn't a direct hit, which is great, but he led with the helmet above the shoulders.

That's the type of play the NFL is trying to avoid.


This is incorrect. You might need glasses. Just because a defender's helmet touches the body of a player it isn't "leading" with the helmet. Leading with the helmet is where the crown (part right above the facemask) is the first to impact the other player. This simply doesn't happen in the clips I've seen.


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