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 Post subject: 2014 QB Prospects
PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:38 pm 
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This one goes out to the experts. Any intriguing mid round options?


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... -nfl-teams

Can McCarron be a better version of Pennington?


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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Derek Carr is being hyped as a 1st round pick. If that guy falls into the 2nd round, I'd snatch him up…Talk about talent. He needs some work, but he can flat out sling it.


Wow. Just watched some video of the guy. Love the fire and leadership. Freaking playmaker who looks like he has some good touch on the deep throws.

If they have a new GM, HC and OC I hope they take a good look at this guy.


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McCarron is billed to be a low 1st rounder

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Aaron Murray and David Fales come to mind as mid rounders.

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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jammer wrote:
This one goes out to the experts. Any intriguing mid round options?



1. David Fales
2. Kevin Hogan
3. Aaron Murray
4. AJ McCarron

I like what I've seen from Fales.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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so is Hundley leaving or staying at UCLA?
I've heard some good things about the Wyoming QB, as well as the Eastern Illinois QB.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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How far will Johnny football fall? Do we grab him at 18? Just talking, don't kill me.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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How far will Johnny football fall? Do we grab him at 18? Just talking, don't kill me.


Crucify me if you wish but if Miami drafted him I'd start supporting another team. His football talent is great and I realize the Fins currently are not a collection of saints, but he comes across as an obnoxious, enabled little punk. I don't like any of the reports I read about his attitude and seeming lack of respect for authority.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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Phins Rock wrote:
Makchell wrote:
How far will Johnny football fall? Do we grab him at 18? Just talking, don't kill me.


He won't get out of the top 5, IMO.

If he did fall, yes. I would draft him.


Are you on the bandwagon of Miami needs a new QB?


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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Crucify me if you wish but if Miami drafted him I'd start supporting another team

Crucify you? For your opinion, not me my friend.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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But to be successful in the NFL you have to maintain that same attitude Monday-Friday, and not be an idiot in the off season. That remains a question obviously.


He already comes from money so I'm not overly worried about newfound wealth suddenly changing him as a person. Right now it has strings attached, and once he doesn't have to live off of daddy's trust fund I could see him flaming out from substance abuse and too much partying.

The only first round guy I'd be okay with Miami taking should he slip would be Derek Carr.

Unfortunately I don't know if Miami has the resources to grab an extra QB this year because of the holes on the o-line, RB, TE and DT.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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I'd be shocked if we draft a QB.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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I'd be shocked if we draft a QB.


I'd be shocked if it was anything earlier than 5th or 6th round. Philbin loves Devlin.

I still think if the talent is there you have to take a chance on a guy in the draft.


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I love having Matt Moore as a quality backup, but I wouldn't be surprised if they traded him to fill some holes and drafted another QB in a later round, maybe someone like T Boyd.

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I love having Matt Moore as a quality backup, but I wouldn't be surprised if they traded him to fill some holes and drafted another QB in a later round, maybe someone like T Boyd.


Not sure he has a heck of a lot of trade value with a 4 million dollar cap hit. I'd be more worried of Philbin's faith in Devlin causing Miami to release Moore. We witnessed with a lot of teams this year what happens when you don't have a viable back up (GB), or when you do (Chicago).


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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I'd have to think those first 4 or 5 picks are used to restock the OL, get a DT, a TE upgrade and a more complete HB.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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jammer wrote:
Makchell wrote:
How far will Johnny football fall? Do we grab him at 18? Just talking, don't kill me.


Crucify me if you wish but if Miami drafted him I'd start supporting another team. His football talent is Urban fashion and I realize the Fins currently are not a collection of saints, but he comes across as an obnoxious, enabled little punk. I don't like any of the reports I read about his attitude and seeming lack of respect for authority.


Well.. As long as he can play football I'm probably on board to be honest. I just feel like he's gonna be a flop in the NFL honestly.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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jammer wrote:
Makchell wrote:
How far will Johnny football fall? Do we grab him at 18? Just talking, don't kill me.


Crucify me if you wish but if Miami drafted him I'd start supporting another team. His football talent is great and I realize the Fins currently are not a collection of saints, but he comes across as an obnoxious, enabled little punk. I don't like any of the reports I read about his attitude and seeming lack of respect for authority.


I wouldnt want him. Wreckless+Small=Disaster


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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jammer wrote:
I'd have to think those first 4 or 5 picks are used to restock the OL, get a DT, a TE upgrade and a more complete HB.


No way we waste a pick on a QB when Philbin must win now. We have too many needs.


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swerve13 wrote:
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I'd have to think those first 4 or 5 picks are used to restock the OL, get a DT, a TE upgrade and a more complete HB.


No way we waste a pick on a QB when Philbin must win now. We have too many needs.


I have to agree with PR about Derek Carr. If he's there at 19 I'd consider it simply because he makes ALL of the throws and just needs some things cleaned up. I think he'll be the star that everyone hoped his brother would be.

If AJ McCarron is still there in the 3rd I'd consider it as well. He looks like a great backup/game manager in the making.

Depends who is on the board I guess. If you see a guy who you think is an immediate starter you grab him.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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Alex13 wrote:
Aaron Murray and David Fales come to mind as mid rounders.


Aaron Murray is a pure gamer....love his intangibles!
I know he doesn't have the height and weight but the kid has all the immeasurable! I watched 4 UGA games this year and was very impressed with him. Tore his ACL so he should be available in the 3rd or 4th round. We should snatch him up!


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Very impressed with this Garappolo kid.


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jammer wrote:
Very impressed with this Garappolo kid.


Yup , best QB value in this draft. Some team is gettin a steal in the bottom of the 2nd round.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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Very impressed with this Garappolo kid.

Ditto. I'd grab him with our 2nd rd pick. We drafted Pat White in the 2nd...lol Remember the last time we drafted an Italian QB!


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Makchell wrote:
Very impressed with this Garappolo kid.

Ditto. I'd grab him with our 2nd rd pick. We drafted Pat White in the 2nd...lol Remember the last time we drafted an Italian QB!


I really have no problem with this. Miami can plug a lot of holes via free agency and draft for value. Worst case scenario you have RGIII/Cousins with people asking if Garappolo will be traded.

A lot of people a very high on Fales. I like Carr but I don't think he'll last beyond the top of Round 2.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 QB Prospects
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We drafted an OL, 2 dbs, a DE, a LB last year to fill holes and none of them did....yet. If there is a QB that can push RT or beat him out in a year or two, I'm all for it. The problem is that Philbin is a lame duck, he's gonna draft to win now which could turn out to be good if they pick starters. A rookie QB will not contribute this year.


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The problem is that Philbin is a lame duck, he's gonna draft to win now which could turn out to be good if they pick starters. A rookie QB will not contribute this year.


Look at TB last year. Freeman was questioned but still considered the starter. Hickey seems to have input on the drafting of Glennon. That could totally play out in Miami this year, especially if Philbin is already floating the idea that he's down on Tannehill and "his" rookie will need time to develop. Buys him another year with his buddy Ross in this unholy matrimony.

I'm still on board with drafting a QB.


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I could see us taking McCarron as he's a pretty high character guy, if we draft a guy later.

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Garappallo is the only one I would want, and only if he slips to us in round 3, not round 2.

Starting to see some doubters now on Derek Carr.


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Sounds like a project JP. Would still be a great pick if he slides into the 2nd or 3rd round.


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Sounds like a project JP. Would still be a great pick if he slides into the 2nd or 3rd round.


I was thinking about it after I wrote that, and I realized I had almost the same exact thoughts on Nick Foles coming out.


I guess it all depends on how teams view Bortles, Bridgewater and Manziel, but I have serious doubt that Carr makes it past Minnesota in Round 2. Houston, Jacksonville, Oakland, Cleveland, Tampa Bay and Minnesota will have had two shots (Cleveland three) by that point.


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Makchell wrote:
How far will Johnny football fall? Do we grab him at 18? Just talking, don't kill me.

If he drops to us, I think we'll trade down for additional picks this year and or next year.


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If he drops to 19 you hope either Arizona shows interest so that a team will want to leapfrog them or Miami is so actively looking to trade back that they will take 75 cents on the dollar to deal.


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Miami isn't the only team looking to move down. Don't assume they will be able to.


Doesn't seem to be a year where they could move back and pick up an extra 2nd rounder. Not sure a move back would be worth it.


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If the Texans draft Clowney and Manziel is there at 19 I think they'll deal. Not to mention, if say Cleveland or Minnesota decide to go another way, they may be willing to trade as well. I realize other teams may be looking to trade back as well, if that does happen we will most likely get an instant starter at a position of need, such as TE or OL.


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If the Texans draft Clowney and Manziel is there at 19 I think they'll deal. Not to mention, if say Cleveland or Minnesota decide to go another way, they may be willing to trade as well. I realize other teams may be looking to trade back as well, if that does happen we will most likely get an instant starter at a position of need, such as TE or OL.


It is certainly possible a team would trade up for Manziel. But I would hope Miami would get a good haul of picks to drop out of the 1st round.


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jammer wrote:
rtwelve1993 wrote:
If the Texans draft Clowney and Manziel is there at 19 I think they'll deal. Not to mention, if say Cleveland or Minnesota decide to go another way, they may be willing to trade as well. I realize other teams may be looking to trade back as well, if that does happen we will most likely get an instant starter at a position of need, such as TE or OL.


It is certainly possible a team would trade up for Manziel. But I would hope Miami would get a good haul of picks to drop out of the 1st round.

I would take their 2015 1st round and this years 2nd. We will still be able to get quality and set ourselves up for the future. The Texans get their fans favorite and likely only give up a mid 1st next year. However, It's way too hard to predict this draft.


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I don't like Manziel all that much, however if Bridgewater falls I'd take him as he be a hit with the locals since Bridgewater is a Miami native.

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