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Could he be brought in? Is he our answer at SOLB? I'd bring him in if the price is reasonable.

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Could he be brought in? Is he our answer at SOLB? I'd bring him in if the price is reasonable.

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A lot of people make a big deal about Belichick's genius, but as you notice here, he has whiffed on a few of his big-money free agents.

Just what this team needs .... another linebacker;)

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I am sure he will want a 4 year deal with guaranteed $..

Considering we didnt take a chance on JT I really would be confused if they took a 32 year old OLB on the down side of his career...

I say we continue to get young..

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We currently have 14 LB's on the roster. There is no way we sign another. There is only 2 positions I think the Dolphins need to watch, which is TE and possibly FS. But all in all I think we have a lot of depth at every position and guys will be pushing and fighting for spots at every position.


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Yeah it would have made more cents to get him before the draft,now we have enough (lbs). Plus we didnt bring JT back so why get Thomas in here. I really dont think they are looking at getting older players anymore,this looks like the youth movement they're going with. Now we have depth and youth at every spot on are team. We still have some vets in place but not that many anymore.

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he'll be a jet before day's end lol.


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he'll be a jet before day's end lol.

could be :) they seem to like to get this players that will prob only play a year for them lol

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If the Jets had not signed Jason Taylor, I could see it happening. Adalius had some of his best years under Mike Nolan, so it would not be a complete surprise to see Miami show some interest.

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Dreamwriter Boi wrote:
he'll be a jet before day's end lol.


hahahah... No doubt that certainly seems to be a possibility considering the Jets jump on any player that comes available...They remind me of that guy at the auction that wants something so bad that he starts bidding against himself.. lol


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If the Jets had not signed Jason Taylor, I could see it happening. Adalius had some of his best years under Mike Nolan, so it would not be a complete surprise to see Miami show some interest.

Plus he would still know all the schemes that we plain on doing on D. But we have enough (lbs)

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Uncapped year...bring him for the year to compete, if he isn't much better than what's there, cut him.

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Armando Salguero: Dolphins source(s) reaching out to various media to quiet rumors of Adalius Thomas interest. Now we can believe them, or think smokescreen.


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I for one wouldn't be too interested in Belichek's castoffs, the guy knows talent. Most of the patriots that were cut and went somewhere else were not nearly as productive as they were in the patriot scheme.

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Uncapped year...bring him for the year to compete, if he isn't much better than what's there, cut him.


Exactly. We have lots of LBs on the roster, but how many are you excited about playing every down at OLB? I feel good about Wake and Misi, but there are questions for sure. We haven't seen it on the field from them yet. We HAVE seen a lot of production from Thomas over the years, just not last year when he camped out in Bill's doghouse.

Or put it this way: who would you rather see on the roster... Adalius Thomas or Erik Walden?


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for now, find out what you have with the 13 LB's currently on the roster......after going thru mini-camps and such if you believe you need more, then check out Thomas if he is still available.


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for now, find out what you have with the 13 LB's currently on the roster......after going thru mini-camps and such if you believe you need more, then check out Thomas if he is still available.


He could be gone by then. Can never have enough linebackers I think.

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LIke I said about Faneca, if Adalius will come in for a vet minimum contract with incentives, compete for the starting spot, and be willing to be the backup, bring him in. But he won't, so we won't.


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LIke I said about Faneca, if Adalius will come in for a vet minimum contract with incentives, compete for the starting spot, and be willing to be the backup, bring him in. But he won't, so we won't.


Heck, I wouldn't do that either.

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LIke I said about Faneca, if Adalius will come in for a vet minimum contract with incentives, compete for the starting spot, and be willing to be the backup, bring him in. But he won't, so we won't.


I don't want Thomas as a back up... I want him to start. I'm all about bringing him in for a look, but if he can't win the STARTING job in camp, then cut him, because he won't be valuable on special teams. Linebackers are most team's most valuable special teams players.


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LIke I said about Faneca, if Adalius will come in for a vet minimum contract with incentives, compete for the starting spot, and be willing to be the backup, bring him in. But he won't, so we won't.


I don't want Thomas as a back up... I want him to start. I'm all about bringing him in for a look, but if he can't win the STARTING job in camp, then cut him, because he won't be valuable on special teams. Linebackers are most team's most valuable special teams players.

Great point, I wouldn't want that either. :yay:


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for now, find out what you have with the 13 LB's currently on the roster......after going thru mini-camps and such if you believe you need more, then check out Thomas if he is still available.


He could be gone by then. Can never have enough linebackers I think.


I wouldn't be worried about whether he's there or not, why bring the guy in if you don't think you need him?

if Thomas is a part of the teams plans for the next 3 years then bring him in now and lets go......they can see how he played for the Pats to know whether he could help or not, don't have to bring him in to evaluate that........if not, then you are keeping the younger players from getting the experience they need to improve as NFL LB's........it looks like the plan is to build the team through the draft, get them in young and ready to play.......

So unless they find out their young guys are not ready to play, I don't see Thomas being brought in.


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he'll be a jet before day's end lol.



Only if no other team offers him anything... :jests:

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Could he be brought in? Is he our answer at SOLB? I'd bring him in if the price is reasonable.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Pat ... homas.html


A lot of people make a big deal about Belichick's genius, but as you notice here, he has whiffed on a few of his big-money free agents.

Just what this team needs .... another linebacker;)


I disagree Dave. Adalius is a very good and productive player who had a great year in 2007, had an injury in 2008, and then for what ever reason got himself into Bellichick's doghouse.

As I just said in another thread though, he needs to be brought in. He's an extremely versatile player who can play either OLB spot, can play ILB, can put his hand in the dirt and rush, drop into coverage, stuff the run, whatever. He can do everything for you.

Mike Nolan will no doubt vouch for him. Don't know how he got on BB's bad side, but he's a heck of a player.


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I'm sure there is a good reason for being cut. I would say work him out before signing. Worth a work-out at least.


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Don't get your hearts set on it as I doubt the Dolphins get into a bidding war over him.

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The New York Jets apparently still have room on their roster for outside linebacker Adalius Thomas.

A week after signing veteran pass-rusher Jason Taylor, the Jets have the chance to add Thomas, too. ESPNNewYork.com and the Newark Star-Ledger report the Jets are interested in giving Thomas a locker stall since the New England Patriots released him Monday.

The Jets are turning into one of those havens for situational veterans. They're a Super Bowl contender and willing to spend for quality help.

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The last time he was productive was with the Baltimore Ravens, where Rex Ryan was his defensive coordinator. Thomas went to a pair of Pro Bowls for the Ravens. In 2006, he recorded 11 sacks, a tackle for a safety, an interception and returned a fumble 57 yards for a touchdown.

In addition to Taylor, the Jets have last year's starters, Calvin Pace and Bryan Thomas, on the roster. But some wiggle room was created when the Jets confirmed they moved Vernon Gholston to defensive end. ESPNNewYork.com's Rich Cimini also reported the Jets have reworked Gholston's contract.

And you better believe Adalius Thomas is interested in joining the Jets. On "Mike & Mike" in early March, Jets inside linebacker Bart Scott, a former Ravens teammate of his, revealed Thomas' desire to switch allegiances.


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Don't get your hearts set on it as I doubt the Dolphins get into a bidding war over him.



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I sure dont have my heart set on it. Honestly dont even expect them to think twice about it...

I think we need to put some confidence in Anderson & Wake as our Vet players, while wake is technically only in his 2nd NFL year, he has been in a few different systems. Anderson is coming into his 6th year, Moses is in his 4th or 5th, Dansby & Crowder...

Its not like we have a roster full of rookies.....

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I don't get how the Jets are able to even sign him .... I was reading this blurb yesterday concerning Sharper, so how is it it's any different for Thomas ....

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A: That is correct. The Jets would have to lose another unrestricted free agent to bring in a Mark Brunell or a Sharper. The Jets have done more than any of the other final four teams by making trades for cornerback Antonio Cromartie and WR Santonio Holmes. They added safety Brodney Pool, RB LaDainian Tomlinson and Taylor. Some might argue the Jets did too much. It's not certain they are better at running back with Shonn Greene, Joe McKnight and Tomlinson than they were with Thomas Jones, Leon Washington and Greene. Are they better at guard with Vladimir Ducasse replacing Alan Faneca? They made major steps forward, but I think they took a step or two backward in the process.

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I sure dont have my heart set on it. Honestly dont even expect them to think twice about it...

I think we need to put some confidence in Anderson & Wake as our Vet players, while wake is technically only in his 2nd NFL year, he has been in a few different systems. Anderson is coming into his 6th year, Moses is in his 4th or 5th, Dansby & Crowder...

Its not like we have a roster full of rookies.....


We need to put some confidence in a journeyman like Anderson? Gotta disagree with that one.

.........and Wake needs to put some confidence in the team by rounding out his game. These two men aren't owed any certainties quite yet.

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I don't get how the Jets are able to even sign him .... I was reading this blurb yesterday concerning Sharper, so how is it it's any different for Thomas ....

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A: That is correct. The Jets would have to lose another unrestricted free agent to bring in a Mark Brunell or a Sharper. The Jets have done more than any of the other final four teams by making trades for cornerback Antonio Cromartie and WR Santonio Holmes. They added safety Brodney Pool, RB LaDainian Tomlinson and Taylor. Some might argue the Jets did too much. It's not certain they are better at running back with Shonn Greene, Joe McKnight and Tomlinson than they were with Thomas Jones, Leon Washington and Greene. Are they better at guard with Vladimir Ducasse replacing Alan Faneca? They made major steps forward, but I think they took a step or two backward in the process.



Thomas was cut by the patriots, whereas Sharper and Brunell are unrestricted free agents.

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Thomas was cut by the patriots, whereas Sharper and Brunell are unrestricted free agents.


Good scoop. I was scratching my head trying to remember the rules on who they could sign and who they could not.

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We need to put some confidence in a journeyman like Anderson? Gotta disagree with that one.

.........and Wake needs to put some confidence in the team by rounding out his game. These two men aren't owed any certainties quite yet.



But giving them the impression that we dont think they can step up may not help either... Some people just need the opportunity...
And bringing in someone they dont know isnt going to make a difference..

Any of these FA's people have talked about are no more then names... THe game has passed them by and they are not going to go out and have break out seasons in their mid 30's...

Anderson may be a career # 2 guy, and Wake is still learning. But they are not fresh off the buss with a glaze over their eyes and can help the rookies in other areas...

Thomas had 34 tackles & 3 sacks in 14 starts last year...
Anderson had 17 tackles & 2 sacks with 1 start
Wake had 23 tackles and 5.5 sacks with one start

Our back ups with limited snaps last year were better than this guy, what kind of teaching is he going to do?

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But giving them the impression that we dont think they can step up may not help either... Some people just need the opportunity...
And bringing in someone they dont know isnt going to make a difference..


Seriously, do you want to baby these guys who've proven NOTHING anymore? They are not owed anything. In fact, they deserve as much competition as possible. Whether or not Adalius could make a difference depends on who's talking about him. It's quite obvious you've written him off though.

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Any of these FA's people have talked about are no more then names... THe game has passed them by and they are not going to go out and have break out seasons in their mid 30's...

Anderson may be a career # 2 guy, and Wake is still learning. But they are not fresh off the buss with a glaze over their eyes and can help the rookies in other areas...

Thomas had 34 tackles & 3 sacks in 14 starts last year...
Anderson had 17 tackles & 2 sacks with 1 start
Wake had 23 tackles and 5.5 sacks with one start

Our back ups with limited snaps last year were better than this guy, what kind of teaching is he going to do?


Thomas was in the dog house the entire season. It was a bad marriage all the way around. It's no secret how BB works once a player is on his bad side. He wasn't even given the opportunity, nor does it appear he wanted it because of how miserable the situation was. This assertion that Charlie Anderson and Cameron Wake are "unequivocally" better than Adalius Thomas is laughable on it's face, even at this point in Thomas's career.

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