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Post Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
Schefter just reported on Sunday Countdown on ESPN that with Mike Nolan coming to Miami, and with JT and JP getting up there in age, he expects Miami to try and get Dumervil, who has 3 more career sacks than Mario Williams.

Also, Dumervil is from Miami, and played HighSchool ball in Miami.


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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumerville in RFA
Lol I was just rushing here to post the same thing....

I'm wondering what it will cost us to get him being how as he's an RFA


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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumerville in RFA
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Lol I was just rushing here to post the same thing....

I'm wondering what it will cost us to get him being how as he's an RFA

Depends. If Denver offers him the highest tender in RFA, it would cost a 1st and a 3rd round draft pick, and a lot of money. If not, then just a 2nd round pick.

For the latter, I'd do it. Not for 2 high draft picks though.


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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
Yeah a 1st and a 3rd is steep especially since we have a good chance to snag McClain in the 1st.


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1st and 3rd... = no
2nd = I'm alright w/ it.


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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
I hate trading away draft picks, but in Dumervil you get a sure thing that has proven success in Nolan's system. Tough choice.

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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
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I hate trading away draft picks, but in Dumervil you get a sure thing that has proven success in Nolan's system. Tough choice.


But would you do it for a 1st and a 3rd?


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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
A first and third is definitely to steep a price but if a second pick is all it takes then it should be done... You're picking a sure thing instead of taking a risk, it'll be stupid not to do it in that situation

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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
here is the link for you guys

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx
Elvis Dumervil-DL-Broncos Jan. 24 - 12:42 pm et

ESPN's Adam Schefter suggests that impending restricted free agent OLB Elvis Dumervil will be on the Dolphins' radar this offseason.
The connection with Mike Nolan is obvious, as Dumervil enjoyed a career year under the Fins' new defensive boss in 2009. Dumervil also is from Miami. While the Broncos surely will want to retain the 26-year-old NFL sacks leader, coach Josh McDaniels abides by the ideology that any player is trade-able. The Dolphins' No. 12 overall pick could probably get it done.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter


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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
OMG, I hate "link" rumors.

We have C.Wake. He is so clearly our Dumervil. This makes no sense.


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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
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OMG, I hate "link" rumors.

We have C.Wake. He is so clearly our Dumervil. This makes no sense.

How does adding the NFL's sack leader to one's roster make no sense??

Wake is a strong side OLB....Dumervil is a weak side guy.


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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
it makes no sense cause he is atrocious against the run plus did nobody read the part of "the dolphins # 12 overall " should get it done .......no frickin way


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it makes no sense cause he is atrocious against the run plus did nobody read the part of "the dolphins # 12 overall " should get it done .......no frickin way


If he is bad against the run, we don't need him. We already have a pass rushing monster who can't cover the run.

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More pee pee time... see Wilfork thread.

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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
pass....there are A LOT of OLB's in free agency this year. keep the picks


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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
Dumervil was ranked 27th out of 28 34 OLBs against the run by this site.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/by_posi ... numgames=1

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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
Keep in mind it was his 1st year playing in a 34 D.


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Keep in mind that sight also has Jared Allen ranked 6th in 4-3 DE's and VIncent Jackson as the #1 WR...

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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
Moral of the story is that sometimes raw numbers can be decieving. That entire team sucked against the run, not just him. When you have that kind of run D it's more of an interior line problem and not so much a LB issue. I think he'll be better than avg with our guys.

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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
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Keep in mind that sight also has Jared Allen ranked 6th in 4-3 DE's and VIncent Jackson as the #1 WR...


Who else played better than Vincent Jackson this season?

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Andre Johnson maybe? Reggie Wayne if he wasn't good enough to be pulled out of 2 games? Wes Welker?

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Andre Johnson maybe? Reggie Wayne if he wasn't good enough to be pulled out of 2 games? Wes Welker?


I'll give you Johnson.

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Andre Johnson maybe? Reggie Wayne if he wasn't good enough to be pulled out of 2 games? Wes Welker?


I'll give you Johnson.


Something about the way you said that...

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Iowafin wrote:
Ski_Money wrote:
Andre Johnson maybe? Reggie Wayne if he wasn't good enough to be pulled out of 2 games? Wes Welker?


I'll give you Johnson.


Something about the way you said that...

:stalker:


oh man...i'm actually crying

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I really hope I don't cry tonight...

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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
No bleeping way for a 1st & 3rd

2nd it would have to be a draft time excahnge if they dont like there picks but the draft is deep in this position so i am not fan of either one


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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
I wouldn't mind picking up Marshall for a price, but an OLB regardless of who is not worth the picks. We have a butt ton. The young guys just have to step up to the plate.

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Dumervil was ranked 27th out of 28 34 OLBs against the run by this site.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/by_posi ... numgames=1


hmm, according to this we should pass on him

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OMG, I hate "link" rumors.

We have C.Wake. He is so clearly our Dumervil. This makes no sense.

How does adding the NFL's sack leader to one's roster make no sense??

Wake is a strong side OLB....Dumervil is a weak side guy.


can we afford 2 pass rushers that have a hard time against the run?

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Moral of the story is that sometimes raw numbers can be decieving. That entire team sucked against the run, not just him. When you have that kind of run D it's more of an interior line problem and not so much a LB issue. I think he'll be better than avg with our guys.


so we picked up a D-Coordinator that can't scheme against the run? great


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Not so much scheme... run D in a 3-4 starts and ends with your NT. Denver's NT ranks somewhere with the save the spotted owl society.

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Not so much scheme... run D in a 3-4 starts and ends with your NT. Denver's NT ranks somewhere with the save the spotted owl society.


all solveable by picking up Vince Wilfork as well! :runwiththeball:

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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
that would be a great addition to get dumervil. i like the sound of getting dumervil if we could get him & draft mclain with our first & a saftie in the 3rd or 4th that would be sweet
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Not so much scheme... run D in a 3-4 starts and ends with your NT. Denver's NT ranks somewhere with the save the spotted owl society.


all solveable by picking up Vince Wilfork as well! :runwiththeball:


This might be a question for another thread, but say the Dolphins do get Wilfork, and they draft McClain and maybe an outside linebacker in the 2nd round. It's the 3rd round and Cody is still there, do you take him?

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TheBigFish wrote:
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Not so much scheme... run D in a 3-4 starts and ends with your NT. Denver's NT ranks somewhere with the save the spotted owl society.


all solveable by picking up Vince Wilfork as well! :runwiththeball:


This might be a question for another thread, but say the Dolphins do get Wilfork, and they draft McClain and maybe an outside linebacker in the 2nd round. It's the 3rd round and Cody is still there, do you take him?


Nah, we need safety help... and Cody seems to be so one dimensional we could probably snag a better NT in a later draft.


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Not for a first, no way at all. A second for a proven player though may be worth parting with.


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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
Elvis is listed at 5'11, but 5'10 3/4 is probably more like it. But since when did a Parcells team start going after smaller linebackers? I recall Bill Belichick talking about these Dolphins and Parcells' player size preference:
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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
I'm not sure if I would give up both a 1st (#12 spot in the draft) and a 3rd round pick for Dumervil. I'd give up our first round pick for him.

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I'm not sure if I would give up both a 1st (#12 spot in the draft) and a 3rd round pick for Dumervil. I'd give up our first round pick for him.


If you're giving up the 12th pick in the draft, what does a measly third round matter?

Geridropa is right. Look at Dumervil's size. I don't see this happening.

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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
Anyone else getting the feeling that Miami will not be going after any big RFA's or trading away picks?

So far they've only dealt a 4th round pick for two players.

I think Wilfork is a realistic target if not franchised. If Antonio Bryant is demanding a ton then he is a possibility. Otherwise I don't see much other than the draft.


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Anyone else getting the feeling that Miami will not be going after any big RFA's or trading away picks?

So far they've only dealt a 4th round pick for two players.

I think Wilfork is a realistic target if not franchised. If Antonio Bryant is demanding a ton then he is a possibility. Otherwise I don't see much other than the draft.


These guys believe in acquiring stars through the draft and role players in free agency or via trade.

Don't get your hopes up about them making a big signing or trade.

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Post Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA
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Anyone else getting the feeling that Miami will not be going after any big RFA's or trading away picks?

So far they've only dealt a 4th round pick for two players.

I think Wilfork is a realistic target if not franchised. If Antonio Bryant is demanding a ton then he is a possibility. Otherwise I don't see much other than the draft.



Also I remember they dealt the 6th round pick for McDaniel, and Parcells made Ireland promise that he would get a pick back somehow, which he did. (I forget how exactly and am too lazy to look it up)

This regime is smart about building young teams through the draft, I don't see them trading away picks unless we are getting an equal number of picks in return somehow.

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