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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:43 pm 
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Oklahoma State's Dez Bryant, the NFL Draft's top receiver, said he likes the idea of playing for Miami if he's available when the Dolphins pick 12th. ``If they draft me, it will be worth it,'' he said. ``I feel like I have no weakness. I'm fearless running across the middle. I'm similar to Larry Fitzgerald, the way I attack the ball


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:01 pm 
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Talk about confident. Lol.

"I have no weakness" ... "I'm like Larry Fitzgerald". Lol.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:39 pm 
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We could use some confidence.


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We could use some confidence.

Confidence is a double edged sword. (See Joey Porter)


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Dez Bryant certainly has to be one of the considerations at #12.

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Dez Bryant certainly has to be one of the considerations at #12.


Again, if we pass on McClain I have no problem taking Bryant here... I think the talent in the LB/DE spot drops significantly after McClain


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:52 pm 
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Dez Bryant is precisely the kind of WR we should be looking for. If for some reason he should be there at #12, then I can't imagine why we would pass up on him. He isn't just a speed guy....he has great size, toughness, leaping ability and good hands. He is everything you should covet in a WR at the NFL level. I love the highlight films I have seen of him. The highlights feature him in traffic, leaping for the ball and coming down with it despite good coverage....and he also has good speed and elusiveness.....he gets yards after the catch...

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He isn't just a speed guy........and he also has good speed and ...


I don't know of anyone that would call Dez Bryant a speed guy, that is the one tool he seems to lack.


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MTFan wrote:
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He isn't just a speed guy........and he also has good speed and ...


I don't know of anyone that would call Dez Bryant a speed guy, that is the one tool he seems to lack.

Maybe you need to go back and look at the guys highlight reel. He has speed but its a lot like Randy Moss...sneaky fast.

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MTFan wrote:
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He isn't just a speed guy........and he also has good speed and ...


I don't know of anyone that would call Dez Bryant a speed guy, that is the one tool he seems to lack.

Maybe you need to go back and look at the guys highlight reel. He has speed but its a lot like Randy Moss...sneaky fast.


Randy Moss had speed. I can look a the highlight reel 100 times and it still won't give Bryant speed no matter how "sneaky" you may feel it is. He doesn't have speed, big deal, he has all the other tools.


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Randy Moss had speed. I can look a the highlight reel 100 times and it still won't give Bryant speed no matter how "sneaky" you may feel it is. He doesn't have speed, big deal, he has all the other tools.

How the heck does Dez Bryant not have speed??


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1st round WR's scare me. Far too many busts - as the Lions.

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Phins Rock wrote:
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Randy Moss had speed. I can look a the highlight reel 100 times and it still won't give Bryant speed no matter how "sneaky" you may feel it is. He doesn't have speed, big deal, he has all the other tools.

How the heck does Dez Bryant not have speed??


because it is a fact. He has great acceleration/burst/quickness. What is his 40 time, I believe it is between 4.5 - 4.6. In todays game that isn't considered speedy.


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Phins Rock wrote:
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Randy Moss had speed. I can look a the highlight reel 100 times and it still won't give Bryant speed no matter how "sneaky" you may feel it is. He doesn't have speed, big deal, he has all the other tools.

How the heck does Dez Bryant not have speed??


I love this kids ability, just don't build him up into something he is not.


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MTFan wrote:
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Randy Moss had speed. I can look a the highlight reel 100 times and it still won't give Bryant speed no matter how "sneaky" you may feel it is. He doesn't have speed, big deal, he has all the other tools.

How the heck does Dez Bryant not have speed??


becuase it is a fact. He has great acceleration/burst/quickness. What is his 40 time, I believe it is between 4.5 - 4.6. In todays game that isn't considered speedy.

Jerry Rice ran a 4.6

The guy plays way faster than any 40 time could measure. Dez has plenty of speed to burn a defense down field.

I'm not saying he's Ted Ginn straight line, but he's got speed bro.


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Phins Rock wrote:
Jerry Rice ran a 4.6

The guy plays way faster than any 40 time could measure. Dez has plenty of speed to burn a defense down field.

I'm not saying he's Ted Ginn straight line, but he's got speed bro.


I'm well aware that Rice didn't have speed, but he had everything else. Bryant does not have the speed, but you don't need necessarily need it. I'm just saying we shouldn't be building Bryant into something he is not. He is a great football player, we don't need to be making stuff up. But if we all want to pretend he is fast and stands 7' tall and shoots lightning out of his arse, then I'm game, just don't be dissapointed when the real Bryant who runs a 4.6 shows up.


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Phins Rock wrote:
Dez has plenty of speed to burn a defense down field.


I don't think he does. But he does have the ball skills to go up and get it in tight coverage.


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MTFan wrote:
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Jerry Rice ran a 4.6

The guy plays way faster than any 40 time could measure. Dez has plenty of speed to burn a defense down field.

I'm not saying he's Ted Ginn straight line, but he's got speed bro.


I'm well aware that Rice didn't have speed, but he had everything else. Bryant does not have the speed, but you don't need necessarily need it. I'm just saying we shouldn't be building Bryant into something he is not. He is a great football player, we don't need to be making stuff up. But if we all want to pretend he is fast and stands 7' tall and shoots lightning out of his arse, then I'm game, just don't be dissapointed when the real Bryant who runs a 4.6 shows up.


My point was not that Rice did not have speed...my point was that your 40 yard time is garbage. Put on some game film, and that's how you determine how fast somebody is. Not how fast they ran in shorts in a timed, prepared for race. Rice had plenty of speed and ran by every defense in the NFL more times than anybody in the history of the game.

Dez has everything you look for in a WR, definitely. Again, just because he does not have Andre Johnson speed does not mean the kid doesn't have what it takes to burn a poor DB down field.


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Phins Rock wrote:
My point was not that Rice did not have speed...my point was that your 40 yard time is garbage.


why do they run them at the combine?


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My point was not that Rice did not have speed...my point was that your 40 yard time is garbage.


why do they run them at the combine?


To give teams a chance to second guess themselves.

Sometimes it's beneficial, (Chris Johnson), sometimes it's not, (Darrius Heyward Bey).


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I don't know that Dez is a 4.3 guy like Ted Ginn, but it woud not surprise me to see him run in the 4.4-4.5 range at the combine. When you combine his size with that type of speed, I will take that in a heartbeat.

PZ, watch for the kid Micah Johnson at ILB out of Kentucky. 6'2, 258 lbs, he would have probably been a 2nd round pick, but he suffered a late knee injury in the Clemson Bowl game. He will probably be thre in round 3-4.

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I love Micah Johnson, too, SC. I think he goes 6'4 though?? He's a 1st round pick if he doesn't suffer the injury and if he didn't go to Kentucky.

If he's there in round 4.....gotta snatch that up. Great size, he can run, good tackler, playmaker, good in space, has good ball skills, strips the ball well.......He's got it all.


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I love Micah Johnson, too, SC. I think he goes 6'4 though?? He's a 1st round pick if he doesn't suffer the injury and if he didn't go to Kentucky.

If he's there in round 4.....gotta snatch that up. Great size, he can run, good tackler, playmaker, good in space, has good ball skills, strips the ball well.......He's got it all.


He's 6'2"

He can run? A 4.75 40 is hardly going anywhere...slower than most quarterbacks. A 3-4 ILB doesn't have to run too far, so straight line speed hardly matters, but you make him sound so fast and fluid.

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Boldin ran a 4.7 also....

On the field he looks pretty fast and fluid, yeah.

And a 4.75 is not slower than most QB's. Lol...come on now.


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Phins Rock wrote:
And a 4.75 is not slower than most QB's.


Um...yeah, it is.
Only guys like McNabb and Vick run faster than that. Even Aaron Rodgers only ran a 4.77.

Don't "come on now" me.

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?? Yes it is....lol. And why would you mention Aaron Rodgers when he did run a slower time than Johnson, (assuming his time really is a 4.75)?

I can't find a list of 40 yard times, but I can guarantee you that most QB's run a sub 4.8.


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?? Yes it is....lol. And why would you mention Aaron Rodgers when he did run a slower time than Johnson, (assuming his time really is a 4.75)?

I can't find a list of 40 yard times, but I can guarantee you that most QB's run a sub 4.8.


Woops, you're right. I got confused. I was thinking for some dumb reason that the higher the number the faster they were.

Yes, you're right, most quarterbacks run slower than 4.7/4.8

No wonder I was like, why are you saying they run a sub 4.8, I know that already!

Yeesh. :hithead:

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I figured.

I thought I made that mistake at first, but then I was like....noooo...I'm right. Lol.


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