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Post Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
A lot has been said that Ricky does not have a lot of wear and tear as he would normally have due to his absense from the NFL for a few years.

I would say that he wore down as the season went on.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
I definitely think so. He is a great back on a limited carry basis. He and the Dolphins need Ronnie to stay healthy or we need to pick up a #1 back in the next couple of years.


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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
As much as I like him, I would guess this is probably his last season as a Dolphin and maybe even as a player.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
I wouldn't say that, because the last three games Sparano and Henning seemed to want to rely on Henne too much. But then again Ricky is getting older so it is possible.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
The R&R Express if the best running game in the NFL. A train without one of it's wheel's cannot run though.


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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
I really hate to see either go, but I understand at the same time.
The team has to keep going forward, even when it hurts.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
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As much as I like him, I would guess this is probably his last season as a Dolphin and maybe even as a player.


Not really going out on a limb here being that he stated several times that this will be his last year.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
Ricky hurt his shoulder in the Houston game and missed a good portion of that game and was not 100% because of the shoulder in the Pittsburgh game.

That being said, you don't want to have a 32 year old back handling the load at this point in his career.

In the last 8 games of the season, beginning with the Tampa Bay game when Ronnie got hurt, Ricky averaged over 83 yards a game and if you take away the Houston game when he got hurt along with the Pittsburgh game when he was still banged up, his avearge was 99.7 yards a game.

I do believe Miami will look to draft a big back as Ricky has said this will be his last year and Ronnie has not been able to stay healthy for a full season.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
I don't think he wore down...Miami fell down early against Houston and Pitt and so Miami was forced to pass. I also think that Miami decided to throw it more because they knew that I had pulled Ricky and started Henne on my fantasy team before the Houston game.

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As much as I like him, I would guess this is probably his last season as a Dolphin and maybe even as a player.


Not really going out on a limb here being that he stated several times that this will be his last year.


I wouldn't count him out. I'll bet he's going at it one year at a time as long as he is making top back up money. Can he pass up the money?

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
While the Dolphins have a good running game , with the results it has yielded the R & R Express will be looked back upon as a loose caboose.

With all the receiver talk going on , the running back position with the current state of these 2 guys might need to be addressed with the same urgency.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
Yeah he definitely slowed down last part of the season, but he did a good job taking over for the most part.


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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
19GonnaCsonkaYa73 wrote:
Yeah he definitely slowed down last part of the season


He did? Miami fell down 27-0 to Houston in the first half. Henne threw it 55 times. 55 times! Ricky had 35 yards on 10 carries.
Again in the Steelers game, Miami couldn't stop the flood from pooring in as Pitt was scoring at will. Henne threw it 20 times in the first half, then the Steelers knew Miami was going to run it with White in there so of course Ricky wasn't going anywhere, not to mention he was hurt....

His numbers went down, there is no evidence that he himself slowed down.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
I would not be surprised if 2010 is the last year in a Dolphin's uniform for both Ronnie and Ricky. Hilliard looked pretty solid late last year....we can hope Cobbs returns healthy. That means we probably draft a running back in the later rounds this year and a high pick for one in 2011.

This draft will be absolutely pivotal to this team's future.....a lot of holes to fill.....a lot of future holes wearing through.....the team can't afford to miss in the frist few rounds this year.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
I would say the position we were in the last three games was more indicative of his reduced carries than any fatigue on his part. You get behind, you typically have to pass to catch up.
I agree with what others have said though, we should probably look at the runningback position in the draft over the next two years.


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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
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I would not be surprised if 2010 is the last year in a Dolphin's uniform for both Ronnie and Ricky. Hilliard looked pretty solid late last year....we can hope Cobbs returns healthy. That means we probably draft a running back in the later rounds this year and a high pick for one in 2011.

This draft will be absolutely pivotal to this team's future.....a lot of holes to fill.....a lot of future holes wearing through.....the team can't afford to miss in the frist few rounds this year.


There might not even be football in 2011. Miami isn't going to waste a pick on a RB early ( I know that's not what you said, but I'm just saying) just because Ricky and Ronnie might not be around next year. They are this year, and at this point, that's the only football that is set in stone, so Miami has to put their chips in to win right now....

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
Those games, specially the Tenn and Houston games, we saw a different side of our offense wha havent seen in a while...

Sure Ricky's numbers were lower..

But look at Chads:

vs Tenn - 29/46 349 yards - Hartline had 96
vs Houston - 35/55 322 yards - Ginn had 80, Hilliard had 75 (rec yds)

I dont consider the Pitt game, if Ricky was even in I wouldnt blame him for just tucking and going down when a blocker got close....

The game vs J-Ville Ricky carried the ball 28 times for 108, the next few games he had less then 1/2 that number...

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
I think we passed more those last few games because the running game wasn't yielding good results. That could be because of the loss of Grove, too.

I think Ricky did wear down at the end of the season. It's a very long season and he is old compared to NFL positional years.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
How does aveargaing 83 yards a game count as wearing down. That is what Ricky was doing the last 8 games when Ronnie got hurt. As I said earlier, if you take away the Houston game, in which he hurt his shoulder and missed a good portion of the game and the Pittsburgh game, he averaged 99.6 yards a game.

As I said earlier, you don't want to count on a 32 year old back to carry you through a 16 game season, but Ricky Williams stepped up in those last 8 games and considering all things held up pretty well.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
I woulda liked to see more Lex Hilliard...


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I woulda liked to see more Lex Hilliard...


Nothing special, IMO.

I'm more interested on how Cobbs comes back.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
I think the tell-tale signs were the late season fumbles. It is clear Ricky isn't the between tackles guy. Defenses took aim and started blasting him. The Ronnie-Ricky express will be on track again next season doing the same thing. I expect we'll see more of Cobbs as well.


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I think the tell-tale signs were the late season fumbles.


Excellent point. I that also has to do with those small hands of his.

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I woulda liked to see more Lex Hilliard...


Nothing special, IMO.

I'm more interested on how Cobbs comes back.


Not really a big fan of Cobbs... don't think hes anything special, and if we got nothing special with Hilliard then we should draft a RB.


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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
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I woulda liked to see more Lex Hilliard...


Nothing special, IMO.

I'm more interested on how Cobbs comes back.


Not really a big fan of Cobbs... don't think hes anything special, and if we got nothing special with Hilliard then we should draft a RB.


Wow, really? This guy may not get as many opportunities as others, but everytime he gets a chance something positive comes out of it, I don't think I remember one bad play Cobbs has made. I don't think he is an every down back, but he is a great football player indeed.

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19GonnaCsonkaYa73 wrote:
Yeah he definitely slowed down last part of the season


He did? Miami fell down 27-0 to Houston in the first half. Henne threw it 55 times. 55 times! Ricky had 35 yards on 10 carries.
Again in the Steelers game, Miami couldn't stop the flood from pooring in as Pitt was scoring at will. Henne threw it 20 times in the first half, then the Steelers knew Miami was going to run it with White in there so of course Ricky wasn't going anywhere, not to mention he was hurt....

His numbers went down, there is no evidence that he himself slowed down.



Yeah, agree with ya.


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I woulda liked to see more Lex Hilliard...


Nothing special, IMO.

I'm more interested on how Cobbs comes back.


Not really a big fan of Cobbs... don't think hes anything special, and if we got nothing special with Hilliard then we should draft a RB.


Cobbs was the reliever man.... The Cat, in the wildcat at times....also. LOL

Anyways, Running backs seem to be another favorite with the team. As far as adding to camp and looksies go.

So ya, I'm willing to bet a RB will be added. Maybe even a surprise with a pick.

The fumbles is something that I still think was surprising from this team on the ground. Whether they lost it or not.

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Post Re: Did Ricky wear down in 2009?
My opinion is that Ricky probably did start feeling more wear and tear, especially after Ronnie Brown got hurt and he became the featured back, but he also got injured in the last couple of games and some guys were simply getting hard clean shots at Ricky while he was carrying the football. He ran so well consistently all season long until the last couple of weeks. I am sure his body was tired and assuming Ronnie comes back healthy, the best thing for Ricky will be sharing the load again as I believe we will get so much out of him and possibly for another season for sure and maybe even one more depending on how Miami does this year.

What a great number two back to have on your team and even at 32 years old.


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