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I guess some people just have to be right. Even when they are wrong.

Is my wife here??

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Just messin...

Glad he was charged. Its people like him that give responsible gun owners a bad name.

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I guess some people just have to be right. Even when they are wrong.


Not to mention be jerks about it... whoever those people you are referring to are....

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Post Re: OT: Lions CB Aaron Berry
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10acjed wrote:
I guess some people just have to be right. Even when they are wrong.


Not to mention be jerks about it... whoever those people you are referring to are....



I try my hardest to not get involved in the exchanges.

I would just prefer that people did not have the idea that you can play games with the police when they think you have a gun...

Whats fun is watching them carry over from thread to thread, regardless of the topic

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Whats fun is watching them carry over from thread to thread, regardless of the topic


Those are the saddest ones....

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Post Re: OT: Lions CB Aaron Berry
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"many states"
Regardless, yes, if you are CAUGHT IN THE ACT OF AN OFFENSE, then they could very well have probable cause. But they can't just pull you over based on hearsay and rip through your vehicle. Period.

No, but they can pull over & detain you at the scene until they get a warrant.


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Post Re: OT: Lions CB Aaron Berry
Oh, and he was released by the Lions today.

Good he is a POS.


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Oh, and he was released by the Lions today.

Good he is a POS.



The Dolphins are interested


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The Dolphins are interested

Link? I hope this is a sick joke. lol


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The Dolphins are interested

Link? I hope this is a sick joke. lol



Why not we are linked to everyone else..

The Latest is TO.

Ya it was a sick joke


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Why not we are linked to everyone else..

The Latest is TO.

Ya it was a sick joke


Whew, you had me scared there. Funny that I thought it might be true knowing all the mistakes in the past.


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Post Re: OT: Lions CB Aaron Berry
Let me put the entire search of the car thing to rest. If the police have reports of a vehicle which had individuals who are threatening the public with firearms, the police have the right to stop the vehicle and find the weapons. It's called exergent circumstances. If the police need to keep the public safe then they can surely stop the vehicle, detain the suspects, and search that vehicle without the owner's consent if it is in the interest of public safety. So long as the suspects pose a real threat to the public those officers were well within their rights to stop them and sieze those weapons.


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The gun was in fact registered to Berry and he had a license to carry but according to PA law a license to carry does not allow you to carry in a vehicle.


This is a different animal. If he owns the car, then it is legal according to the US constitution. If he rented, or the car belongs to someone else, he could be breaking the law by carrying in a vehicle.

Search and seizure..... most states have almost instantaneous approval for warrants...ie they have a judge on call and they can now print the warrant in the police vehicle. So if the officer wants the evidence collected to stick in court, he probably should get a warrant. A good lawyer will get any evidence collected at a stop thrown out.

Brandishing a firearm is different state to state. In colorado, we have open carry laws so seeing a holstered weapon isn't brandishing. If you remove it and point, it is felony harassment with intent. In some states with no open carry law, it is a fcrime to be seen with even a holstered weapon. I know in Colorado there is a distinction in the law. If I'm a concealed carry guy and get in an altercation and "show" the gun by lifting my shirt...that is felony brandishinig. If I reach up to grab a box on a shelf and someone sees my weapon in a walmart, I can be charged with disturbing the peace. I would venture to say in most states there are small distinctions in the laws as well.


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The gun was in fact registered to Berry and he had a license to carry but according to PA law a license to carry does not allow you to carry in a vehicle.


This is a different animal. If he owns the car, then it is legal according to the US constitution. If he rented, or the car belongs to someone else, he could be breaking the law by carrying in a vehicle.

Search and seizure..... most states have almost instantaneous approval for warrants...ie they have a judge on call and they can now print the warrant in the police vehicle. So if the officer wants the evidence collected to stick in court, he probably should get a warrant. A good lawyer will get any evidence collected at a stop thrown out.

Brandishing a firearm is different state to state. In colorado, we have open carry laws so seeing a holstered weapon isn't brandishing. If you remove it and point, it is felony harassment with intent. In some states with no open carry law, it is a fcrime to be seen with even a holstered weapon. I know in Colorado there is a distinction in the law. If I'm a concealed carry guy and get in an altercation and "show" the gun by lifting my shirt...that is felony brandishinig. If I reach up to grab a box on a shelf and someone sees my weapon in a walmart, I can be charged with disturbing the peace. I would venture to say in most states there are small distinctions in the laws as well.


There is an open carry law in PA as well. The vehicle he was in was rented.


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Post Re: OT: Lions CB Aaron Berry
Who really cares!? The guy got what he deserved! If the cop did by some means mess something up by searching his car.. I don't particularly give a sh@t. You point a gun at a Dolphin fan in thug like fashion. Let alone one of our OWN. And you deserve everything you got coming to you.

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Nice job, PZ. You started a domino effect ... and a well needed one.


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Lions cut Johnny Culbreath, sign Jonathan Scott
Posted by Michael David Smith on July 24, 2012, 4:06 PM EDT

For the second day in a row, the Lions have released one of their players who was arrested this offseason.

Yesterday cornerback Aaron Berry was given the old heave-ho, and today offensive tackle Johnny Culbreath has been released. Culbreath, a 2011 seventh-round draft pick, was arrested in January for marijuana possession.

To fill Culbreath’s spot on the offensive line, the Lions have picked up offensive tackle Jonathan Scott, who was released by the Steelers five days ago.

This will be Scott’s second stint with the Lions, who took him out of Texas in the fifth round of the 2006 NFL Draft. After two years with the Lions he spent two years with the Bills and then two years with the Steelers. It’s unlikely that Scott can compete for a starting job in Detroit, but he may earn a spot on the 53-man roster as the No. 4 tackle behind last year’s starters Jeff Backus and Gosder Cherilus, and this year’s first-round draft pick Riley Reiff.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... han-scott/

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Post Re: OT: Lions CB Aaron Berry
LOL I have to agree with Hypo... he got what he deserved and what I meant to happen by alerting the media... i dont even care if he gets jail time anymore... he all but ruined his easy peezy career.


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LOL I have to agree with Hypo... he got what he deserved and what I meant to happen by alerting the media... i dont even care if he gets jail time anymore... he all but ruined his easy peezy career.


If the police need to you testify you should do it, too many of these punks get away with it because people fail to stand up to them.


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