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:what?

I'm sure Kev is in agreement with him, but in the process of taking a shot at Gase and Tannenbaum, Landry threw Tannehill under the bus with that comment. He should take the high road even if he feels that way. I don't think he realizes that he is playing for a coach who has won only 1 game over the past two years.


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... The quarterback play is so important, which has got me that much more excited about Tyrod and [first-rounder Baker Mayfield] and the way that they're throwing the ball out here, it makes me that much more excited. It's a lot better than what I had in Miami. I'm excited about that."
He wasn’t done.
"As soon as I found out he was coming, I texted [Taylor]: ‘Let’s do it.’ Found out when he was coming up here, we all came up here for the press conference, we did the press conference, then we did the thing in Miami where we got everybody together and then we're back here. And we've got something else planned when we leave here right before training camp and stuff like that. I love it," Landry said.
"Again,[b] I didn't do that in Miami with the quarterbacks because they didn't want to do it. [/b]I would say that the chemistry and the type of guys that I'm around here makes me that much more excited because I know I'm going to be pushed at all levels at all times."


They look like they don't even practice.... I think i said that a time or two.

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I was a big Landry fan when he was a Dolphin and he is a very gifted receiver. With that being said he strikes me as someone that can never accept blame when things don't work out. I wish he had played with Marino, then every time he ran a wrong route or dropped a pass he would have took some heat.


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I was a big Landry fan when he was a Dolphin and he is a very gifted receiver. With that being said he strikes me as someone that can never accept blame when things don't work out. I wish he had played with Marino, then every time he ran a wrong route or dropped a pass he would have took some heat.

It's everybody else.


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So are we omitting where Landry said, "I think (Ryan) Tannehill's skill level and the way he was playing the year we went to the playoffs before his injury was at a high level and he could have taken us to a championship or whatever or whatnot, but it didn't happen..."

Then there was some mumbling about Cutler.

And then of course there are the selfies of Tannehill and his receivers working out together on their own from just about every offseason.

But why ruin a nice narrative with actual facts and details?


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They look like they don't even practice.... I think i said that a time or two.


I guess those numerous offseason articles where they talked about how Tannehill organized unofficial practices with the receivers were made up.

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They look like they don't even practice.... I think i said that a time or two.


I guess those numerous offseason articles where they talked about how Tannehill organized unofficial practices with the receivers were made up.


Practice? Whos got time to practice when you are the greatest?

Let take trips to south beach, go to NYC, have fun... We can practice in camp.....

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I knew he was a Prima dona from the get go. I don’t try to boast about past words but I said it was a near guarantee he wouldn’t last past his rookie contract in Miami after his sophomore season when most here were obsessed with him. I’m not here to wish ill of his future playing career, just my honest truth, but why the hell do you think Cleveland has him?

Landry, your head coach has won ONE game out of his last 32. Shut the **** up.

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Landry produced..


Tannehill, not so much.

He never took care of himself (especially that knee) the way he should have, had all the ability to be a great. Lol

On tropical vacations fishing...Out shooting with the old lady..No time for practice!


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Kev1321 wrote:
Landry produced...


... YPC like a running back.

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So are we omitting where Landry said, "I think (Ryan) Tannehill's skill level and the way he was playing the year we went to the playoffs before his injury was at a high level and he could have taken us to a championship or whatever or whatnot, but it didn't happen..."


Never happened.

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All pro.


, Landry made three Pro Bowls and led the league in receptions in 2017. His 400 career receptions are the most by a player through his first four seasons in NFL history..

Sucked.


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Says a lot about the Pro Bowl when all it takes is 112 hand offs to get selected.

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I actually don't care about Landry's assessment of any QB. He may be right that he has better options with Taylor and Mayfield.

But why lie? There is photo evidence and news reports of Tannehill organizing pre camp activities with his receivers. You can't dispute that.

I remember the photo, with Stills and a few other receivers being in it.


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According to NFL Network’s Jeff Darlington, the Dolphins quarterback for the past six weeks has gone out with his wide receivers every week twice a week and thrown routes to them.

The Dolphins will start their offseason program Monday, but quarterback Ryan Tannehill already has put in a lot of work to put himself in the best position to succeed in his fifth NFL season.

The 2012 first-round pick has been working regularly with his receivers since the end of last season and has been spending a lot of time studying film …

“One of the things I’ve been impressed with (about) Tannehill is this offseason, from my conversations with Tannehill, he’s doing all the right things,” Darlington said. “And he’s not out there flaunting this necessarily and throwing it out there on social media or anything like that, but this is a guy who for the past six weeks has gone out with his wide receivers every week twice a week and thrown routes to them. He’s not allowed to meet with the coaching staff yet, but he has gone and dissected a lot of material from the Denver Broncos, the offense that Gase was coaching. ...



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So did Landry want Tannehill to fly his receivers to some destination? Because clearly he's not being truthful, or, didn't participate in these activities.

Just juvenile stuff. I expect any teammate to talk up their current QB or support their guys, but this is just a crappy way to take a shot at people.


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Great post here.


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Rich wrote:
... YPC like a running back.


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jammer wrote:
Just juvenile stuff.


Yeah. That’s Landry. He’s like a hipster and football player all in one.

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Rich wrote:
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So are we omitting where Landry said, "I think (Ryan) Tannehill's skill level and the way he was playing the year we went to the playoffs before his injury was at a high level and he could have taken us to a championship or whatever or whatnot, but it didn't happen..."


Never happened.


Then where did jammer get this? He’s not the type to make stuff up.

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AFCMiamiEast wrote:
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So are we omitting where Landry said, "I think (Ryan) Tannehill's skill level and the way he was playing the year we went to the playoffs before his injury was at a high level and he could have taken us to a championship or whatever or whatnot, but it didn't happen..."


Never happened.


Then where did jammer get this? He’s not the type to make stuff up.


Rich, on rare occasions, has used sarcasm in his posts.


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Nice photo opp.... Too bad it didn't happen often enough to make a difference on the field. Obviously.


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Actually it did make a difference. When Tannehill spent time teaching Gase's playbook to his receivers in 2016 it translated to a playoff appearance.

Stills and Parker had career highs in yards and TD catches. Landry had a career high 12.1 YPC and with 30 fewer targets still had almost 100 catches.

Tannehill had career highs in QB Rating, completion percentage and YPA.

But again, lets not let facts and stats get in the way of a good narrative.


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Rich, on rare occasions, has used sarcasm in his posts.


:) :) :)

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I could tell how much Tannehill was teaching the 28th ranked offense in 16...

What was more telling was he was outplayed by his backup..The great Matt Moore. That was the difference.


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I could tell how much Tannehill was teaching the 28th ranked offense in 16...

What was more telling was he was outplayed by his backup..The great Matt Moore. That was the difference.


Kev "Fake News", your dislike for Tannehilll has compromised your ability to make a fair analysis. Matt Moore did not play better than Tannehill, and in fact, Gase didn't even want to hand him the reins last year but brought in Cutler instead. Gase, on the other hand, wants Tanenhill as his starter and said after being named our head coach that Tannehill was one of the reasons he took the Miami job. If you are looking for the next Dan Marino, then you are not going to like anyone because no one can fill his shoes.

In the Dave Hyde snippet below, I know that you will only read the first paragraph.


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You never know how to take words of divorced players. Maybe Landy is right. Taylor has a better career passer rating (91.2) than Tannehill (86.5), and Mayfield, by all accounts, would have been a Dolphin if they’d had a chance to draft him.

Maybe Landry is wrong. Tannehill had a 93.6 rating in 2016 — and 100.7 in his final eight games before getting hurt. That’s beyond Taylor and more than Mayfield can be expected to do out of the blocks. Landry, later in the Cleveland interview, even said Tannehill was “good enough” to lead a winner.


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Wow. Athlete goes to new team and states things are so much better here, than where I came from. Nope never happened in sports history.


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Big Dave wrote:
Kev "Fake News"


Absolute genius! His new name in these threads is Fake News!


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Fake, huh.

Maybe you should look at what the two qb' s did vs. the same three teams that year?

And the Raven game when Tannehill needed to step up..Oh boy.

But don't let stats ruin a good love affair..


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Maybe Landry is wrong. Tannehill had a 93.6 rating in 2016 — and 100.7 in his final eight games before getting hurt.


Raven game!

And Dave, I don't dislike Tannehill..He has sucked for 7 years is my only complaint..That and the fact the teams seems to think going into every year without him having to compete for a job.


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Fake plus coming from a guy who thinks he is the only one who wants the qb position to improve.

Unbelievable. I still think it is Dave in disguise trying to pump up traffic.

It is nigh to impossible for a person to be (moderator: this is impermissible posting, you have been warned check your p.m.) and still be breathing.


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Landry posted videos of he and other WRs working with Tannehill in the spring in the past. Soo... lies.

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Wow. Athlete goes to new team and states things are so much better here, than where I came from. Nope never happened in sports history.


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Wow, the Ravens game and Moore's numbers versus the Jets, Bills and Pats! I've never heard this take! Its so nuanced! This changes everything!


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There is valid reason to criticize Tannehill and Miami's QB situation.

Let's say Miami gets 10 wins and Tannehill has numbers similar to what he would have projected over 16 games in 2016 (mid 90s rating, 25 TDs). Wild Card spot and maybe a playoff win would be awesome...but is that it?

What if Tannehill's career track is that of Alex Smith? A major project coming out of college who takes more time than usual to develop, but will get your team to the playoffs in unspectacular fashion. Smith has left both San Francisco and Kansas City for the same reason - management wanted a guy with more upside.

I disagree with the take that Tannehill has sucked for 7 years (technically he is entering year 7). He has been decent with moments of wow plays. But I do agree that it isn't wrong to ask for more or wish Miami invested better in the QB position. Heck, I was all in on trading the farm to go up and get Sam Darnold.


I'll take 10-6 with a playoff appearance over another year of Cutler or some scrub who can't even get 6 wins. But I'm tired of asking "will this be the year Tannehill steps up?"


I understand that elite QBs do not grow on trees. In the last 10 drafts only Russell Wilson and Matt Ryan have risen to a level where I would say they are Hall of Famers. Some good QBs and plenty of mediocre ones. Its not easy to find "THE GUY". But Miami has to start trying.


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Fake plus coming from a guy who thinks he is the only one who wants the qb position to improve.

Unbelievable. I still think it is Dave in disguise trying to pump up traffic.

It is nigh to impossible for a person to be (moderator: this is impermissible posting, you have been warned check your p.m.) and still be breathing.


Seriously, you let two guys come on this site and run down the team constantly and blast me for that.

Come on man.


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Wow, the Ravens game and Moore's numbers versus the Jets, Bills and Pats! I've never heard this take! Its so nuanced! This changes everything!

Keep hiding from the facts......OUTPLAYED!


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Wow, the Ravens game and Moore's numbers versus the Jets, Bills and Pats! I've never heard this take! Its so nuanced! This changes everything!

Keep hiding from the facts......OUTPLAYED!


Actually I watched the videos on YouTube of every drop back from both Tannehill and Moore versus all 3 opponents that year. Moore's stats were inflated and his accuracy was spotty at best. He wasn't good in any of his starts. He got the job done but was boosted by his receivers taking short throws and getting large amounts of YAC.

As was mentioned by another poster, Gase had zero faith in going with Moore after Tannehill's injury. Feel free to go watch the videos yourself unless you are afraid of the evidence that keeps unraveling your take.


Tannehill threw the ball very well against both New England and Buffalo. The Jets game he wasn't sharp. Tannehill also lit up a Steelers team, both visually and numerically, that made Moore look like hot garbage.


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Great p.m. so one more word about this and I am banned. Ok well consider this the “word”, and bye.


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jammer wrote:
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Wow, the Ravens game and Moore's numbers versus the Jets, Bills and Pats! I've never heard this take! Its so nuanced! This changes everything!

Keep hiding from the facts......OUTPLAYED!


Actually I watched the videos on YouTube of every drop back from both Tannehill and Moore versus all 3 opponents that year. Moore's stats were inflated and his accuracy was spotty at best. He wasn't good in any of his starts. He got the job done but was boosted by his receivers taking short throws and getting large amounts of YAC.

As was mentioned by another poster, Gase had zero faith in going with Moore after Tannehill's injury. Feel free to go watch the videos yourself unless you are afraid of the evidence that keeps unraveling your take.


Tannehill threw the ball very well against both New England and Buffalo. The Jets game he wasn't sharp. Tannehill also lit up a Steelers team, both visually and numerically, that made Moore look like hot garbage.

Actually,
Moore outplayed Tannehill... There was a reason for better YAC... Its called getting the ball to the receiver before everyone on the field knows its coming. A Tannehill trait

Nice excuses though. Moore TD's Less sacks and int. SAME THREE TEAMS! What do you know everyone else played better. The qb, everybody.

Pretty bad when you can't do better than Moore. Imagine if the team had brought in some real competition.


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